In a message dated 7/26/2006 2:54:36 PM Pacific Daylight Time, 
[EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
That's for post grad school.
When you're a university freshman, and a couple of levels up from there, you 
have to be taught or exposed to truth as we know it. Like all well-learned 
subjects, first get thoroughly grounded in basic facts. Build on them.
The name of he subject is unimportant. Grounding, or immersion in fundamental 
truths as pertains to the subject at hand, is of paramount importance.

keith whaley
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That's not quite true. I know this thread is probably done, but I read 
several people saying that.

My experience with college was, and I first started with junior college, that 
our teachers encouraged us in critical thinking. I.E. In examining all sides, 
defending our position (such as in answering essay questions), and 
questioning their opinion. And this was when I was a freshman new at college, 
and not 
with just one teacher, but several. Now maybe at big universities with huge 
lecture halls they don't do that, but they did that at our junior college. 
Later I 
went to a state college and a state university. So I've often wondered if, 
comparatively, I didn't get a better education that way, by starting at a JC 
first. ;-)

It's why when I hit college, I finally learned to love school and learning. 
Before, in high school, and earlier, it was all rote learning. And rote 
learning had definitely been boring.

So I think some are seriously underestimating college freshman and teachers.

Marnie aka Doe 

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