So your experience is different.  I don't have a problem seeing the 
effect of the DOF lever in the viewfinder, I don't see a difference in 
focus on the rear viewer unless the focus is way off.  I know a couple 
of people who can't separate the darkening of the image from the 
apparent change in image focus.  No matter how many times I explain it 
to them.  It's not a fault, I haven't figured out if it's a mental block 
or a vision problem, I certainly don't think any less of them because of 
it.  I suppose for some people, and in some circumstances the DOFP would 
work.  It still only works on static shots.  Since the optical DOF works 
better for me I still think it's mostly silly, an attempt to have a 
feature that looks in print like the Olydak live preview, even though it 
isn't.

Aaron Reynolds wrote:

>Really?  I set my first zoom step to 4x on the DS2 and find the image at that 
>size to be a perfectly good size for judging focus -- and I do it a lot, 
>shooting wide-open with a 400mm 2.8, which gives the tiniest sliver of 
>in-focus image.
>
>-Aaron
>
>-----Original Message-----
>
>From:  "P. J. Alling" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
>Subj:  Re: K10D - More News
>Date:  Fri Aug 4, 2006 4:23 pm
>Size:  6K
>To:  Pentax-Discuss Mail List <[email protected]>
>
> From my experience, I've taken shots that I was sure I'd missed the 
>focus on, and reviewed them on the rear screen of my *ist-Ds, not as big 
>as the new K series but close, and breathed a sigh of relief thinking 
>they were salvageable.  They weren't.  Everything looks sharp at that 
>resolution, if you get the focus even close.  It's not the size of the 
>screen, it's the pixels displayed that tells the story. 
>
>Tom C wrote:
>
>  
>
>>Not making a major issue of it, but the screen is a good 5 times the size of 
>>the viewfinder, plus one can zoom in on the part of the image they wish to 
>>inspect... I can see it being useful (though I would easily have traded 2 
>>more megapixels for the feature).
>>
>>Tom C.
>>
>>"I will not be pushed, filed, stamped, indexed, briefed, debriefed or 
>>numbered."
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> 
>>
>>    
>>
>>>From: "P. J. Alling" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
>>>Reply-To: Pentax-Discuss Mail List <[email protected]>
>>>To: Pentax-Discuss Mail List <[email protected]>
>>>Subject: Re: K10D - More News
>>>Date: Fri, 04 Aug 2006 16:12:41 -0400
>>>
>>>Unfortunately the rear screen DOFP is the same as taking a photograph
>>>you can't save.  Not to mention the fact that the resolution on the rear
>>>screen isn't really high enough to make a good determination of DOF
>>>anyway.  I personally think that it's a useless feature.  I know some
>>>will disagree.
>>>
>>>Tom C wrote:
>>>
>>>   
>>>
>>>      
>>>
>>>>I like the on-screen DOFP.  Often hard to get a good feeling in low light
>>>>through the viewfinder.
>>>>
>>>>Tom C.
>>>>
>>>>"I will not be pushed, filed, stamped, indexed, briefed, debriefed or
>>>>numbered."
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>     
>>>>
>>>>        
>>>>
>>>>>From: "P. J. Alling" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
>>>>>Reply-To: Pentax-Discuss Mail List <[email protected]>
>>>>>To: Pentax-Discuss Mail List <[email protected]>
>>>>>Subject: Re: K10D - More News
>>>>>Date: Fri, 04 Aug 2006 15:51:53 -0400
>>>>>
>>>>>Damn, it looks to me as if Pentax has decided to add as many "features"
>>>>>to the mix as possible, without asking if these are necessary to the
>>>>>likely target audience.  More like, what can we implement "cheaply" to
>>>>>set us apart, and get the bullet point count up.  Oh, well.  At least we
>>>>>can hope the core operations and build quality will be solid.
>>>>>
>>>>>[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>       
>>>>>
>>>>>          
>>>>>
>>>>>>Well, I've only actually seen photos of the latest build of it, 
>>>>>>         
>>>>>>
>>>>>>            
>>>>>>
>>>courtesy
>>>   
>>>
>>>      
>>>
>>>>>>         
>>>>>>
>>>>>>            
>>>>>>
>>>>>of my
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>       
>>>>>
>>>>>          
>>>>>
>>>>>>Pentax rep, but at least I've got a little more information for you to
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>         
>>>>>>
>>>>>>            
>>>>>>
>>>>>chew
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>       
>>>>>
>>>>>          
>>>>>
>>>>>>on.  The photos were taken this week, so this is about as current as it
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>         
>>>>>>
>>>>>>            
>>>>>>
>>>>>gets.
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>       
>>>>>
>>>>>          
>>>>>
>>>>>>First off, the magic press-release date is September 13th.  There's 
>>>>>>         
>>>>>>
>>>>>>            
>>>>>>
>>>still
>>>   
>>>
>>>      
>>>
>>>>>>         
>>>>>>
>>>>>>            
>>>>>>
>>>>>so
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>       
>>>>>
>>>>>          
>>>>>
>>>>>>much I haven't been able to pry from my rep that I'm dying for this 
>>>>>>         
>>>>>>
>>>>>>            
>>>>>>
>>>date
>>>   
>>>
>>>      
>>>
>>>>>>         
>>>>>>
>>>>>>            
>>>>>>
>>>>>to
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>       
>>>>>
>>>>>          
>>>>>
>>>>>>hurry up and get here!
>>>>>>
>>>>>>Body + 18-55 lens should be $899.  A bit more than I expected, but 
>>>>>>         
>>>>>>
>>>>>>            
>>>>>>
>>>still
>>>   
>>>
>>>      
>>>
>>>>>>         
>>>>>>
>>>>>>            
>>>>>>
>>>>>a damn
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>       
>>>>>
>>>>>          
>>>>>
>>>>>>good price.
>>>>>>
>>>>>>The name is definitely K10D (it was stamped on the body). Any remaining
>>>>>>doubters can relax now.
>>>>>>
>>>>>>Remember in the PMA photos
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>         
>>>>>>
>>>>>>            
>>>>>>
>>>>>(http://www.dpreview.com/articles/pma2006/Pentax/),
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>       
>>>>>
>>>>>          
>>>>>
>>>>>>that unmarked button that was above the AF switch on the front of the
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>         
>>>>>>
>>>>>>            
>>>>>>
>>>>>camera?
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>       
>>>>>
>>>>>          
>>>>>
>>>>>>It's now marked RAW, and I'm told it allows you to switch the camera to
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>         
>>>>>>
>>>>>>            
>>>>>>
>>>>>RAW
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>       
>>>>>
>>>>>          
>>>>>
>>>>>>mode from jpg mode by pressing and holding the RAW button.  I think I
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>         
>>>>>>
>>>>>>            
>>>>>>
>>>>>would
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>       
>>>>>
>>>>>          
>>>>>
>>>>>>have preferred a custom white balance button, but I'm sure this 
>>>>>>         
>>>>>>
>>>>>>            
>>>>>>
>>>function
>>>   
>>>
>>>      
>>>
>>>>>>         
>>>>>>
>>>>>>            
>>>>>>
>>>>>will
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>       
>>>>>
>>>>>          
>>>>>
>>>>>>be useful for people who shoot in jpg mode most of the time.
>>>>>>
>>>>>>The LCD screen is the same as on the K100D: 2.5 ", 210,000 pixels
>>>>>>
>>>>>>The battery grip has the same features as the grip for the *istD, 
>>>>>>         
>>>>>>
>>>>>>            
>>>>>>
>>>though
>>>   
>>>
>>>      
>>>
>>>>>>         
>>>>>>
>>>>>>            
>>>>>>
>>>>>I
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>       
>>>>>
>>>>>          
>>>>>
>>>>>>can't say whether or not it connects to the body in the same way.
>>>>>>
>>>>>>The body is slightly different than the one shown at PMA, though not by
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>         
>>>>>>
>>>>>>            
>>>>>>
>>>>>much.
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>       
>>>>>
>>>>>          
>>>>>
>>>>>>I'd be more specific, but I didn't have much time to really study the 
>>>>>>         
>>>>>>
>>>>>>            
>>>>>>
>>>new
>>>   
>>>
>>>      
>>>
>>>>>>images.
>>>>>>
>>>>>>The mode dial on the camera's shoulder now has a lot more on it than at
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>         
>>>>>>
>>>>>>            
>>>>>>
>>>>>PMA.  I
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>       
>>>>>
>>>>>          
>>>>>
>>>>>>couldn't see much detail in the images, but the new stuff looked like 
>>>>>>         
>>>>>>
>>>>>>            
>>>>>>
>>>the
>>>   
>>>
>>>      
>>>
>>>>>>         
>>>>>>
>>>>>>            
>>>>>>
>>>>>same
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>       
>>>>>
>>>>>          
>>>>>
>>>>>>sort of preset shooting modes you see on consumer cameras (sports,
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>         
>>>>>>
>>>>>>            
>>>>>>
>>>>>portrait,
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>       
>>>>>
>>>>>          
>>>>>
>>>>>>night scene, etc).
>>>>>>
>>>>>>DOF-preview now functions in a very interesting manner (apparently it
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>         
>>>>>>
>>>>>>            
>>>>>>
>>>>>does this
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>       
>>>>>
>>>>>          
>>>>>
>>>>>>on the K100D, but I didn't know that).  Straight out of the box, when 
>>>>>>         
>>>>>>
>>>>>>            
>>>>>>
>>>you
>>>   
>>>
>>>      
>>>
>>>>>>         
>>>>>>
>>>>>>            
>>>>>>
>>>>>use
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>       
>>>>>
>>>>>          
>>>>>
>>>>>>the DOF-preview function, it actually takes a photo and displays it on
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>         
>>>>>>
>>>>>>            
>>>>>>
>>>>>the
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>       
>>>>>
>>>>>          
>>>>>
>>>>>>screen until you press halfway on the shutter button (no, the photo is
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>         
>>>>>>
>>>>>>            
>>>>>>
>>>>>not
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>       
>>>>>
>>>>>          
>>>>>
>>>>>>saved on your memory card).  If you want the more standard 
>>>>>>         
>>>>>>
>>>>>>            
>>>>>>
>>>thru-the-lens
>>>   
>>>
>>>      
>>>
>>>>>>         
>>>>>>
>>>>>>            
>>>>>>
>>>>>DOF-
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>       
>>>>>
>>>>>          
>>>>>
>>>>>>preview, you can change that in a custom function menu.
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>That's all I can remember.  Have fun!
>>>>>>
>>>>>>John Celio
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>         
>>>>>>
>>>>>>            
>>>>>>
>>>>>--
>>>>>When you're worried or in doubt,
>>>>>   Run in circles, (scream and shout).
>>>>>
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>>>>>
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>>>>>
>>>>
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>>>>
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>>>>
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