Antti-Pekka,

Thanks for the info! I hadn't heard that the Epson's
tended to clog. That's interesting. I too read that
the Canon doesn't require a swap-out to do the matte
finish.
 
I can't imagine going through the ink sets in 6 months
but who knows? Perhaps searching around for some
preventative maintenance tips would be a good thing
regarding the clogging issue.

Thanks again for the post. Lots of really good
information to  think about.

-Brendan

--- Antti-Pekka Virjonen
<[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

> Hi Brendan,
> 
> I am in the exactly same situation right now. I am
> looking at
> the Epson 4800 and the Canon IPF5000. The 5000 is
> pretty new
> so there is no long term information available yet
> (good
> source for information is the luminous-landscape
> forum).
> 
> What interests me mostly and what I have learned by
> reading the 
> different discussion boards, in favour of the 5000
> (not much?):
> - the 5000 has a wider color gamut (more ink colors
> to start from)
> - with the 5000 you don't need to swap ink tanks to
> get matte 
> optimized black or photo black
> - the 4800 (like all Epsons) seems to clog often
> - the 5000 monitors the nozzles and will use the
> other nozzles to
> finish the job in case some of the nozzles clog
> while printing a job
> - I have not yet heard of a clogged 5000 but you can
> replace the heads
> yourself if the clog is permanent
> - the 5000 ink tanks do not seem to have a "use
> before" date like the
> Epson ones (maybe they forgot?)
> 
> I have not red any firm comment which would suggest
> the 4800 is the way
> to go, other than these, mostly based on history:
> - I have used only Epson printers myself in the past
> with success 
> (currently 2000P with CIS... which is right now
> clogging terminally)
> - Epson Pigment Inks are at a later generation (Gen
> 3 or 4 now?) while
> the 5000 is the first Canon Pigment ink printer
> (this is not necessarily
> a bad thing)
> 
> My only concern with these bigger printers is the
> high price of the
> big ink carts. If I remember correctly, both manuf.
> recommend using
> installed
> ink carts within 6 months. That recommendation would
> mean a LOT of
> printing 
> if followed while one full set of ink carts is about
> $600-700(?). I
> think a full
> set of carts should be ok for 1-2 years.
> 
> I am leaning towards the 5000 pretty heavily. Early
> 2007 will also bring
> the 
> Canon Pigment A3+ printer (Pixma Pro 9500) which
> would be a more
> economical
> choise.
> 
> I have the older ColorVision PrintFIX PRO Suite and
> have been happy with
> it.
> It won't produce perfect profiles but still a lot
> better than any other 
> approach I have tried (well, the best profile I have
> is a commercial
> profile
> from inkjetmall.com but the self made ColorVision
> profiles come very
> very 
> close).
> 
> Antti-Pekka
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> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf
> Of
> > Brendan MacRae
> > Sent: Thursday, August 17, 2006 9:03 AM
> > To: [email protected]
> > Subject: Printer Recommendations?
> > 
> > I'm going to be putting my digital darkroom
> together
> > soon and I've decided on everything but the
> printer at
> > this point.
> > 
> > I want a large format ink jet and have been
> looking at
> > Canon and Epson. Both of the 17" wide $1800
> printers
> > have gotten good reviews. I'm leaning toward the
> Epson
> > since I know a designer who owns an older model
> that
> > produces amazing prints. I've never seen anything
> from
> > a Canon.
> > 
> > Also, does anyone else use the ColorVision Print
> Fix
> > Pro suite? +'s? -'s?
> > 
> > Thanks.
> > 
> > -Brendan
> > 
> > 
> > 
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