Antti-Pekka, Thanks for the info! I hadn't heard that the Epson's tended to clog. That's interesting. I too read that the Canon doesn't require a swap-out to do the matte finish. I can't imagine going through the ink sets in 6 months but who knows? Perhaps searching around for some preventative maintenance tips would be a good thing regarding the clogging issue.
Thanks again for the post. Lots of really good information to think about. -Brendan --- Antti-Pekka Virjonen <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Hi Brendan, > > I am in the exactly same situation right now. I am > looking at > the Epson 4800 and the Canon IPF5000. The 5000 is > pretty new > so there is no long term information available yet > (good > source for information is the luminous-landscape > forum). > > What interests me mostly and what I have learned by > reading the > different discussion boards, in favour of the 5000 > (not much?): > - the 5000 has a wider color gamut (more ink colors > to start from) > - with the 5000 you don't need to swap ink tanks to > get matte > optimized black or photo black > - the 4800 (like all Epsons) seems to clog often > - the 5000 monitors the nozzles and will use the > other nozzles to > finish the job in case some of the nozzles clog > while printing a job > - I have not yet heard of a clogged 5000 but you can > replace the heads > yourself if the clog is permanent > - the 5000 ink tanks do not seem to have a "use > before" date like the > Epson ones (maybe they forgot?) > > I have not red any firm comment which would suggest > the 4800 is the way > to go, other than these, mostly based on history: > - I have used only Epson printers myself in the past > with success > (currently 2000P with CIS... which is right now > clogging terminally) > - Epson Pigment Inks are at a later generation (Gen > 3 or 4 now?) while > the 5000 is the first Canon Pigment ink printer > (this is not necessarily > a bad thing) > > My only concern with these bigger printers is the > high price of the > big ink carts. If I remember correctly, both manuf. > recommend using > installed > ink carts within 6 months. That recommendation would > mean a LOT of > printing > if followed while one full set of ink carts is about > $600-700(?). I > think a full > set of carts should be ok for 1-2 years. > > I am leaning towards the 5000 pretty heavily. Early > 2007 will also bring > the > Canon Pigment A3+ printer (Pixma Pro 9500) which > would be a more > economical > choise. > > I have the older ColorVision PrintFIX PRO Suite and > have been happy with > it. > It won't produce perfect profiles but still a lot > better than any other > approach I have tried (well, the best profile I have > is a commercial > profile > from inkjetmall.com but the self made ColorVision > profiles come very > very > close). > > Antti-Pekka > ________________________________________ > > Antti-Pekka Virjonen > > Computec Oy > R&D Turku > Fiskarsinkatu 7 D > FIN-20750 Turku Finland > > Puh. +358 10 264 070 > GSM +358 500 789 753 > Telefax +358 10 264 0777 > > Y-tunnus 1974184-5 > Kotipaikka Helsinki > > www.computec.fi > > > -----Original Message----- > > From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf > Of > > Brendan MacRae > > Sent: Thursday, August 17, 2006 9:03 AM > > To: [email protected] > > Subject: Printer Recommendations? > > > > I'm going to be putting my digital darkroom > together > > soon and I've decided on everything but the > printer at > > this point. > > > > I want a large format ink jet and have been > looking at > > Canon and Epson. Both of the 17" wide $1800 > printers > > have gotten good reviews. I'm leaning toward the > Epson > > since I know a designer who owns an older model > that > > produces amazing prints. I've never seen anything > from > > a Canon. > > > > Also, does anyone else use the ColorVision Print > Fix > > Pro suite? +'s? -'s? > > > > Thanks. > > > > -Brendan > > > > > > > > __________________________________________________ > > Do You Yahoo!? > > Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam > protection around > > http://mail.yahoo.com > > > > -- > > PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List > > [email protected] > > http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net > > -- > PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List > [email protected] > http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net > __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around http://mail.yahoo.com -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List [email protected] http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net

