I would second the recommendation of the DA 50-200. It's an excellent  
lens for the money. That being said, I have a Vivitar Series 1,  
70-210/3.5 (version 1) that I will sell for $70 plus shipping. It's a  
big lens, but an excellent performer.
Paul
On Sep 4, 2006, at 9:34 PM, Matt Kelch wrote:

> Adam Maas wrote:
>> Matt Kelch wrote:
>>
>>> Hello everyone, My name is Matt and have just recently gotten into
>>> photography with the purchase of a Pentax *ist DL.  I've been taking
>>> lots of pictures around town, and having the camera for less than a
>>> month I've taken over 1500 shots.  Feel free to check my gallery at
>>> http://vulc4n.com/v/Photo/
>>>
>>> Now that I have had the camera for a month I have found that I  
>>> really
>>> need a lens with more reach than the 18-55mm kit lens.  I don't  
>>> have a
>>> lot of money to spend (maybe around 100.00)  Basically, I want  
>>> something
>>> thats reasonably fast (at least f4), is decent optically  
>>> (something on
>>> par with my 18-55 Pentax kit lens), and a zoom range somewhere  
>>> within
>>> the area of 50-220 mm.  I have been doing a good bit of research and
>>> have more or less settled on a few lenses.  I have been successful i
>>> finding two of them, but the third has proven rather hard to find.
>>>
>>> Here is my lens list:
>>> 1. Vivitar Series One 70-210mm f/2.8-4.0 (v3 made by Komine) [with A
>>> appature mode]
>>> 2. Pentax SMC A 70-210mm f.4.0
>>> 3. Vivitar Series One 70-210mm f/2.8-4.0 (v4 made by Cosina)
>>>
>>> The last two lenses are relatively easy to come by, as is the first
>>> without the A appature mode [can it be found with the A appature
>>> mode?].  The question is, if the first cannot be found, which of  
>>> them is
>>> going to perform better?  The primary use for the lens other than
>>> shooting random stuff around town will be taking pictures at  
>>> sporting
>>> events.  So, lots of use for high speed action in relatively bad
>>> lighting.  This makes me think that the Cosina made 70-210mm  
>>> might be
>>> the right way to go if the Komine made lens cannot be found.  Has  
>>> anyone
>>> compared the Pentax lens to the Cosina lens?  I'm curious how  
>>> much worse
>>> the Cosina lens is optically.  For that matter, how much worse is  
>>> the
>>> Cosina than the Komine?
>>>
>>> Also, if anyone has another lens that fits the bill please let me  
>>> know.
>>> I'm a noob and know next to nothing about pentax lenses.
>>>
>>> Thanks,
>>> Matt
>>>
>>>
>>
>> My recommendation is to spend the little bit extra for the 50-200 DA,
>> which is superb, much smaller and lighter, and AF. Otherwise I'd  
>> get the
>> SMC-A 70-210, which is optically on par with the Series 1 lenses, but
>> features Pentax's better SMC coatings. The Cosina 70-210 would be my
>> last choice, most of the Cosina-built Series 1 lenses were not up  
>> to the
>> performance of the earlier ones, especially teh Komine and Kiron  
>> production.
>>
>> -Adam
>>
>>
> Thanks for the response.
>
> So, even taking into consideration the inteded usage (sports in
> relatively bad lighting), the slower 50-200mm is what you think I  
> should
> get?
>
> Looking at the pricing of the 50-200 it is probably out of my budget a
> the moment.  Being back to school means I can't work many hours.   
> I'd be
> happy with manual focus, though the option of autofocus would be nice.
> Can you be more specific on how the Cosina lens compares perfomance  
> wise
> to other lenses, considerign it can be had for around 50.00.  I'm
> thinking that it will serve the purpose for now until I can geta few
> hundred dollars to spend on better glass.
>
> Thanks again,
> Matt
>
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