> -----Original Message-----
> It's been mentioned about two point six zillion times by now that you
> probably don't, though. The sensor itself doesn't have a lot more than
> 12-bits worth of latitude, so producing more bits in the A/D doesn't
> help a lot.

I disagree with that a little. It's still the same sensor reveiving the 
photons no matter if you set the ISO to 100 or 1600 in a normal
DSLR. When setting the camera to ISO 1600 you just capture a lot
less photons in one pixel well than you would if you set ISO 100
(having the same amount of light available on both exposures). This
is because you will have less light entering the sensor to get the
correct exposure. Every single photon generates one electon (not
exactly but to about 70% success rate) and there is a lot of
space for those electrons. A good modern CCD sensor does have 14-16 bits
worth of depth (or latitude). Don't know about these DSLR camera
sensors though, maybe they are just 12 bits :(. That would be a little
disappointing, heh. (Ok, I need to do some CCD data sheet reading I 
guess).

If you shoot at 1600, the amplifier gain is set high because
less photon generated electrons are available to be read from the CCD 
wells to get the output voltage values for all the pixels in the picture
to closely fill the full dynamic range of the following a/d converter.
The overexposed cells or wells (still far from flowing over) overflow
the amplifier (at the set gain) and the a/d reads full scale value for
those "pixels" (overexposure).

If you set the same camera to lower ISO (like 100). You still use the
same ccd, just the wells of the sensor get a lot more photons and
a lot more electrons are generated. Then you use a lower gain amplifier 
to get the output matched as close as possible to the input range of the

a/d conversion.

When using the 22 bits a/d you can have a lower gain amplifier and then
choose the suitable part of the full scale input of the a/d converter to
get the (for example) 12 bits of the wanted exposure and latitude (which

is a small part of the whole dynamic range of the conversion).
At least, this is how I believe it could work in theory. In real world
the CCD well depth vs. noise level (dynamic range) is of course less
than 22 bits but you still can have an optimized fixed gain amplifier.
It is a lot more easier to design a good fixed gain amp than a variable 
one.
 
> Not amplifying the signal (in a variable manner) probably does help *a
> bit* as one source of noise has been removed (and the 12 bits are the
> latitude after noise has been chopped off), but it's probably not too
> significant compared to the noise in the actual sensor and/or the
> interface to it.
> 
> - Toralf

Of course, the real world "gain" from all this technology is not 
world breaking but I think we may well notice an easily visible 
difference between Pentax and the current competition. I don't think
either that we can set the post prosessing ISO value from the whole
100-1600 range, but I am pretty convinced there will be an advantage
over the current models.

It would be nice if they would explain exactly why they decided to
have 22 bits of a/d.

This got a bit too technical... I even did some amplifier design today 
and looked at bit too deep into the future *grin*.

Can't help it, being an electronics design engineer...

Let's just wait and see,
Antti-Pekka
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Antti-Pekka Virjonen

Computec Oy
R&D Turku

www.computec.fi



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