I, of course, don't wish to belabor the point. ;-) We, at least I, was not really talking about 10MP P&S cameras, but DSLR's.
So far noise has not been a serious problem with any of Canon's DLSR's as far as I know. I suspect it will not be with Pentax either. If it is, the increase in MP resolution would be relatively meaningless. Tom C. >From: Paul Stenquist <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> >Reply-To: Pentax-Discuss Mail List <[email protected]> >To: Pentax-Discuss Mail List <[email protected]> >Subject: Re: K110D - Why bother? >Date: Fri, 15 Sep 2006 18:17:57 -0400 > >I still stand by that. Some 10 megapixel P&S cameras are horrible. As >I suspect some DSLRs may be as well. The benefits of the K10D extend >well beyond pixel count. And if the hype is to be believed, it seems >Pentax has compensated for any degradation of image quality due to >the higher pixel count. We'll soon see. >Paul >On Sep 15, 2006, at 4:50 PM, Tom C wrote: > > > > >> From: Paul Stenquist <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > >> Reply-To: Pentax-Discuss Mail List <[email protected]> > >> To: Pentax-Discuss Mail List <[email protected]> > >> Subject: Re: K110D - Why bother? > >> Date: Thu, 10 Aug 2006 21:14:57 -0400 > >> > >> Aaron is completely correct. Some cameras with a larger pixel count > >> don't produce better images. I've seen visible evidence of that. If > >> you seriously believe that image quality is dependent only on pixel > >> count, you have a lot to learn. > >> Paul > >> On Aug 10, 2006, at 9:07 PM, Tom C wrote: > >> > >>> I guess you're saying all those existing DSLR's with a bigger pixel > >>> count > >>> don't produce equal if not better images??? I suppose when Pentax > >>> releases > >>> higher MP DSLR's your argument will no longer be valid? > >>> > >>> Everyone start hunkering down in the bunkers. I can see another > >>> Pentax > >>> jihad starting. :-) > >>> > >>> > >>> Tom C. > >>> > >>> "I will not be pushed, filed, stamped, indexed, briefed, > >>> debriefed or > >>> numbered." > >>> > >>> > >>> > >>> > >>> > >>> > >>> > >>>> From: "Aaron Reynolds" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > >>>> Reply-To: Pentax-Discuss Mail List <[email protected]> > >>>> To: Pentax-Discuss Mail List <[email protected]> > >>>> Subject: Re: K110D - Why bother? > >>>> Date: Thu, 10 Aug 2006 20:56:00 -0400 > >>>> > >>>> Who cares about the number of megapixels? As many have pointed > >>>> out, a > >>>> higher pixel count in the same physical space often yields more > >>>> noise -- so > >>>> who cares if there are more pixels if the printed image quality > >>>> suffers? > >>>> > >>>> Oh, sure, advertising buzzwords, etc etc. Would you rather have a > >>>> better > >>>> picture or a bigger number? > >>>> > >>>> -Aaron > >>>> > >>>> -----Original Message----- > >>>> > >>>> From: "Tom C" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > >>>> Subj: Re: K110D - Why bother? > >>>> Date: Thu Aug 10, 2006 8:18 pm > >>>> Size: 2K > >>>> To: [email protected] > >>>> > >>>> Your last interrogative (Why not sell it?) was more or less where > >>>> I was > >>>> coming from. Will it sell *that* well? I'm not doubting the > >>>> results from a > >>>> 6MP camera obviously as that's what we have at the moment. > >>>> > >>>> As you correctly stated, the marketing bar is raised. Currently > >>>> Nikon and > >>>> Pentax are the only mfrs. actively selling a 6MP DSLR. To have > >>>> engineered > >>>> and fabricated a *new* 6MP DSLR, when by all accounts 6MP is for > >>>> the most > >>>> part (from my perception) considered passe, seems kind of foolish. > >>>> > >>>> As a casual shopper with no brand allegiance and not worrying > >>>> about money, > >>>> it would instantly jump out at me that Canon sells 8 & 12 MP > >>>> cameras, while > >>>> Pentax is selling 6 and 10MP cameras. > >>>> > >>>> I'm not trying to start an argument, just stating my opinion that > >>>> quite > >>>> soon, if not already, new 6MP DSLR's will be viewed as a low-end > >>>> beginner's > >>>> camera, regardless of picture quality. Perception is often > >>>> everything in > >>>> the > >>>> marketplace. > >>>> > >>>> > >>>> Tom C. > >>>> > >>>> "I will not be pushed, filed, stamped, indexed, briefed, > >>>> debriefed or > >>>> numbered." > >>>> > >>>> > >>>> > >>>> > >>>>> From: Godfrey DiGiorgi <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > >>>>> Reply-To: Pentax-Discuss Mail List <[email protected]> > >>>>> To: Pentax-Discuss Mail List <[email protected]> > >>>>> Subject: Re: K110D - Why bother? > >>>>> Date: Thu, 10 Aug 2006 16:37:03 -0700 > >>>>> > >>>>> On Aug 10, 2006, at 4:02 PM, Tom C wrote: > >>>>> > >>>>>> I was questioning the wisdom of continuing with any 6MP DSLR body > >>>>>> when the > >>>>>> bar has been raised in entry level DSLRs for some time now. > >>>>> > >>>>> Which bar? Just because 8 and 10 Mpixel cameras are out there at > >>>>> similar pricing doesn't mean that they do any better on image > >>>>> quality. The entry-level DSLR market generally isn't concerned > >>>>> with > >>>>> making a 13x19 and larger presentation prints, the difference in > >>>>> ultimate resolution is barely noticeable at 8x12 and 11x17 inch > >>>>> print > >>>>> sizes. > >>>>> > >>>>> Perhaps you mean the marketing bar. > >>>>> > >>>>> Regardless, the Pentax 6Mpixel SLRs return superb results. I'm > >>>>> finishing up another exhibit's batch of 11x14s right now and the > >>>>> quality is delightful. As long as the sensor is available, it's > >>>>> proven technology that will make excellent photographs. As time > >>>>> goes > >>>>> on, they'll be available for lower and lower prices. Why kill a > >>>>> good > >>>>> thing? > >>>>> > >>>>> Far as I can tell from reports, the K110D is an advance on the DL > >>>>> models in having faster AF, improved JPEG rendering out of the > >>>>> camera, and commonality of parts with the K100D. 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