On Oct 1, 2006, at 3:02 AM, Ivan Shukster wrote:

> ... c) whenever I do use a Mac I can never figure
> out how to turn them off.  ...

I will recommend to my friends at Apple that they provide a "Start"  
button, prominently and persistently displayed on screen, so that  
Windows users will understand intuitively how to turn their computers  
off. Rather than the current very obtuse and difficult to understand  
"Shut Down..." command on the Apple system menu which appears in  
every application.

]'-)

Godfrey


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