Shel,

The shoe on the right is the original, the show on the left has had  
the corrections done. There is no real detail in that area, it's all  
Zone 1, but the noise makes you believe that there is detail there.  
To obtain more detail on the inner sole of the shoe, I should have  
given it 1 to 2 stops more exposure, then dealt with the highlight  
values that would have been dangerously close to saturation.

It's always a trade off. The film or sensor only has so much dynamic  
range to work with. The inner sole of the shoe has no significant or  
interesting detail to me, so I let it go black so as not to burn the  
Zone IX details which I wanted. (This is only a 1:1 section of the  
full frame!)

Godfrey

On Oct 2, 2006, at 9:18 PM, Shel Belinkoff wrote:

> Well, I do that when it seems appropriate, but then subtle detail  
> is lost.
> Honestly, I'm quite frustrated with this aspect of the camera/ 
> processing,
> although I'm sure it's as much my techniques as it is the dynamics of
> digital.  Juan seems to get what I want in a lot of his work, and  
> I've seen
> it in yours both on the web and in person.  However, the example  
> you posted
> clearly shows what I am trying to avoid.  There's no detail in the  
> darkest
> area of the image, and the area outlined in yellow shows a lot of  
> noise
> compared to the clean black in the similar area of the other shoe.   
> I'm
> looking for clean detail in zone 2, 3,and 4 and don't want to mask the
> noise with full black.
>
> http://home.earthlink.net/~my-pics/IMGP3536b.jpg
>
> Shel
>
>
>
>> [Original Message]
>> From: Godfrey DiGiorgi
>
>> Hmm. I don't recall receiving any files, but it *has* been really
>> pretty busy lately and I might have missed them.
>>
>> Similar to Paul's effort, I find that for some images you just need
>> to pull the shadows down with a Levels/Curves adjustment layer to
>> push the noise into solid black. Here's an example ... I layered a
>> Levels correction and a Curves correction on the left side image, you
>> can compare it to the right hand one:
>>
>>    http://homepage.mac.com/godders/IMGP3536.jpg
>>
>> Sometimes you can do the same with a simple S-curve adjustment using
>> the Curves tool.
>
>
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