You are missing my point. Those film bodies that didnt Support PK/PKM were cheap models for those who didnt want The feature, and pentax always offered higher levels models the Entire time that did. With the DSLRs none of them support It. There should be at least ONE model at all times that Does especially if we are talking about $1000 cameras In todays market. I want the feature very much and I am Sure there are millions of lens owners that do to. Its A real shame (on Pentax) to not offer what buyers WANT And would be willing to pay for. jco
-----Original Message----- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Adam Maas Sent: Sunday, October 08, 2006 12:32 PM To: Pentax-Discuss Mail List Subject: Re: k10d and manual-aperture lenses? No, there is nothing to prevent it being re-implemented. But the Camera makers in the position to do so (Nikon and Pentax, the only two of major makers stillusing their MF mount) have written it off on consumer and semi-pro bodies a number of years ago. This happened in the film era, we've actually got more functionality on the Pentax DSLR's than on many recent film bodies (*ist, MZ-30/50/60, many more on the Nikon side). Would I like to see the Aperture Simulator return? Hell Yes. Do I expect it? Not unless Pentax makes a K1D. Can I live without it? Most Assuredly. -Adam J. C. O'Connell wrote: > Bullshit. There is nothing to prevent its implementation > In the future, either by Pentax or other camera makers > Using the PK mount. > jco > > -----Original Message----- > From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of > Adam Maas > Sent: Sunday, October 08, 2006 11:45 AM > To: Pentax-Discuss Mail List > Subject: Re: k10d and manual-aperture lenses? > > Because it ain't shit. > > The green button hack is one of the reasons I bought the K100D to > replace my D50. Some metering is better than no metering. And that's the > > choice we're faced with. > > The Aperture Simulator is dead. Deal With It. Those of us who shoot with > > K glass and the DSLR's are doing just fine. > > -Adam > > > J. C. O'Connell wrote: >> Why settle for shit for no reason? >> Glass is still definitely half empty. >> jco >> >> -----Original Message----- >> From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf > Of >> Tim Øsleby >> Sent: Sunday, October 08, 2006 11:27 AM >> To: 'Pentax-Discuss Mail List' >> Subject: RE: k10d and manual-aperture lenses? >> >> I stand corrected, silly me. My perception is obviously wrong >> [slapping myself happily over forehead]. >> >> The glass is half empty, not half full. >> >> >> Tim >> Mostly harmless (just plain Norwegian) >> >> >> -----Original Message----- >> From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf > Of >> J. >> C. O'Connell >> Sent: 8. oktober 2006 17:03 >> To: 'Pentax-Discuss Mail List' >> Subject: RE: k10d and manual-aperture lenses? >> >> No, an "extra bonus" on a $1000 top line camera would be >> A camera that could read the PK PKM lens aperture setting. That this > is >> Not done is ridiculous as its friggin SIMPLE to implement... >> Semi automanual manual is good but it aint open aperture AE >> With PK PKM, while is very possible but still is not done. >> jco >> >> -----Original Message----- >> From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf > Of >> Tim Øsleby >> Sent: Sunday, October 08, 2006 10:46 AM >> To: 'Pentax-Discuss Mail List' >> Subject: RE: k10d and manual-aperture lenses? >> >> Welcome onboard David. >> >> I had exactly the same thoughts as you about metering manual lenses >> before I >> tried it. In real life, it is no problem. After 15 minutes using it, > you >> will get used to it. >> In high speed situation you must think a bit ahead, watching at the >> light. >> If lighting changes you need to re push the button every now and then > to >> make sure to get the exposure right before the decisive moment. >> >> Lack of matrix metering is a bit frustrating. But in most situations > you >> can >> get around it using the histogram fine tuning the exposure. It's the >> same as >> the green button thing. You need to think a bit ahead, being prepared >> for >> the decisive moment. >> >> But what can you expect. Consider the ability to use old lenses as an >> extra >> bonus. >> >> >> Tim >> Mostly harmless (just plain Norwegian) >> >> >> -----Original Message----- >> From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf > Of >> David Bliss >> Sent: 8. oktober 2006 10:01 >> To: pdml@pdml.net >> Subject: k10d and manual-aperture lenses? >> >> Hi all, >> >> I'm new to the list but I've been reading the archives for the last > few >> weeks so hopefully I will not make too much of a fool of myself. I'm > a >> long >> time amateur user of Pentax 35mm film gear about to buy my first DSLR. > I >> was >> minutes away from buying a K100D when the K10D was announced... >> >> I have a lot of manual-aperture K-mount glass, so being able to use it >> on >> a new DSLR is important to me. I know there are workarounds for using >> such on the K100D but they're pretty bad (metering on DOF-preview only >> and/or manually setting aperture to match the lens's). >> >> The dpreview page >> (http://www.dpreview.com/articles/pentaxk10d/page2.asp) >> and a few other verbatim copies thereof explicitly says >> "Ability to use lens aperture ring" so I was very excitted to think > that >> Pentax would have finally fixed this (idiotic) design error on the > K10D. >> But, the press photos of the K10D clearly show an absence of a >> mechanical >> aperture coupling lever. And the (mis)released manual from a couple > of >> days ago documents the same behavior as the K100D. Can anyone confirm >> this for sure one was or the other? >> >> Also, can anyone explain to me why the K100D (and apparently the K10D) >> disable >> (a) non-central AF sensors (for focus confirmation, not AF, obviously) >> and >> (b) all the metering modes except CWA when using a pre-A lens? I > cannot >> conceive of any possible reason these features would care about the > lens >> aperture being set manually. >> >> Thanks! >> David Bliss >> >> > > -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net
