Oh Screw You. You dont have a clue if you think that legacy Lens support is only a minor issue. And like an Idiot it's NOT the age of the lenses it's WHAT The PK/PKM lenses are, which are superb MANUAL Focus lenses which are not even available new Anymore so there is great reason to support them. AGE IS IRRELAVANT. There are MORE PK/PKM lenses In existence than all other lens series combined so MOST Pentax BRAND lenses are not fully supported. Thats Not good by any standards....This is a Pentax support Issue, not a compatability issue which really sucks IMHO. If yours differs, so be it, but you cannot Prove your points by calling me an idiot, it just Makes you look like an idiot in doing so.. Jco
-----Original Message----- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of John Forbes Sent: Sunday, October 08, 2006 2:21 PM To: Pentax-Discuss Mail List Subject: Re: k10d and manual-aperture lenses? Don't apologise to JC O'Connell. He is a boring little nitwit who comes onto the list every six months or so to wind himself into a frenzy over the lack of full support for very old lenses. After abusing anyone who disagrees with him (sample: "Gimme a friggin break with your "you don?t own a pentax (sic) DSLR So (sic) you don?t know what youre (sic) talking about" B.S."). Eventually, after about a dozen posts, this one-issue idiot has an apoplectic fit, and shuts up for another six months while he recovers. Then the cycle starts all over again. John On Sun, 08 Oct 2006 16:49:13 +0100, Tim Øsleby <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > I know that now. >> From now on I will look for limitations in my equipment. > > JCO. > Sorry about my sarcastic reply. The compatibility could have been solved > better, I agree on that. > But I prefer looking forward, looking for solutions instead of beating > this > dead horse. I don't believe irritation over this minor issue (for me) > will > make me a better photographer. > > > Tim > Mostly harmless (just plain Norwegian) > > -----Original Message----- > From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of > J. > C. O'Connell > Sent: 8. oktober 2006 17:34 > To: 'Pentax-Discuss Mail List' > Subject: RE: k10d and manual-aperture lenses? > > Why settle for shit for no reason? > Glass is still definitely half empty. > jco > > -----Original Message----- > From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of > Tim Øsleby > Sent: Sunday, October 08, 2006 11:27 AM > To: 'Pentax-Discuss Mail List' > Subject: RE: k10d and manual-aperture lenses? > > I stand corrected, silly me. My perception is obviously wrong > [slapping myself happily over forehead]. > > The glass is half empty, not half full. > > > Tim > Mostly harmless (just plain Norwegian) > > -----Original Message----- > From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of > J. > C. O'Connell > Sent: 8. oktober 2006 17:03 > To: 'Pentax-Discuss Mail List' > Subject: RE: k10d and manual-aperture lenses? > > No, an "extra bonus" on a $1000 top line camera would be > A camera that could read the PK PKM lens aperture setting. That this is > Not done is ridiculous as its friggin SIMPLE to implement... > Semi automanual manual is good but it aint open aperture AE > With PK PKM, while is very possible but still is not done. > jco > > -----Original Message----- > From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of > Tim Øsleby > Sent: Sunday, October 08, 2006 10:46 AM > To: 'Pentax-Discuss Mail List' > Subject: RE: k10d and manual-aperture lenses? > > Welcome onboard David. > > I had exactly the same thoughts as you about metering manual lenses > before I > tried it. In real life, it is no problem. After 15 minutes using it, you > will get used to it. > In high speed situation you must think a bit ahead, watching at the > light. > If lighting changes you need to re push the button every now and then to > make sure to get the exposure right before the decisive moment. > > Lack of matrix metering is a bit frustrating. But in most situations you > can > get around it using the histogram fine tuning the exposure. It's the > same as > the green button thing. You need to think a bit ahead, being prepared > for > the decisive moment. > > But what can you expect. Consider the ability to use old lenses as an > extra > bonus. > > > Tim > Mostly harmless (just plain Norwegian) > > -----Original Message----- > From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of > David Bliss > Sent: 8. oktober 2006 10:01 > To: [email protected] > Subject: k10d and manual-aperture lenses? > > Hi all, > > I'm new to the list but I've been reading the archives for the last few > weeks so hopefully I will not make too much of a fool of myself. I'm a > long > time amateur user of Pentax 35mm film gear about to buy my first DSLR. I > was > minutes away from buying a K100D when the K10D was announced... > > I have a lot of manual-aperture K-mount glass, so being able to use it > on > a new DSLR is important to me. I know there are workarounds for using > such on the K100D but they're pretty bad (metering on DOF-preview only > and/or manually setting aperture to match the lens's). > > The dpreview page > (http://www.dpreview.com/articles/pentaxk10d/page2.asp) > and a few other verbatim copies thereof explicitly says > "Ability to use lens aperture ring" so I was very excitted to think that > Pentax would have finally fixed this (idiotic) design error on the K10D. > > But, the press photos of the K10D clearly show an absence of a > mechanical > aperture coupling lever. And the (mis)released manual from a couple of > days ago documents the same behavior as the K100D. Can anyone confirm > this for sure one was or the other? > > Also, can anyone explain to me why the K100D (and apparently the K10D) > disable > (a) non-central AF sensors (for focus confirmation, not AF, obviously) > and > (b) all the metering modes except CWA when using a pre-A lens? I cannot > conceive of any possible reason these features would care about the lens > aperture being set manually. > > Thanks! > David Bliss > > -- Using Opera's revolutionary e-mail client: http://www.opera.com/m2/ -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List [email protected] http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List [email protected] http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net
