>> What does this say about that "High-end cameras do not sell well" crap?
>
> It just says that they really screwed up their pricing to me. If they
> really had a handle on the market they would have priced it below the
> competition but not sub US$1000 (which seems to be the current cascade
> pricing point). Then they could have ended up with a far better
> profit/item ratio and not been completely overwhelmed with orders.

>From a business standpoint, that's a foolish thing to do.

Regardless of whatever small amount of profit they would make off a higher 
K10D price, they still need to sell lenses and other accessories to make the 
real profits.  If they set the price low, sell out initially and then fill 
remaining orders later, they're getting more bodies out there that will need 
lenses.  If they raise the price and sell fewer bodies, they end up selling 
fewer accessories.  It's as simple as that.

All this aside, I am completely befuddled as to why you or anyone would want 
Pentax to give the K10D a higher price.  Price point is immensely important 
in marketing electronics, and Pentax HAD to be competetive with their 
pricing in order to sell to the masses.  You have to remember: in the 
booming dSLR market, the masses are everything.  Groups like the PDML matter 
little in the long run compared to people walking into Wal*Mart and picking 
a camera off the shelf.


As far as profit margins on camera bodies go, I can tell you that the price 
I paid for my *istD, which I ordered as an "employee personal purchase" 
directly from Pentax, was almost insignificantly lower than the price the 
camera sold for in stores or on the internet.  Trust me, from my experience 
in camera retail, the profit margins on camera bodies has not changed since 
the D came out, only the retail prices have come down.  On the other end of 
the spectrum, if I told you how much I saved on my D-FA 100mm macro last 
summer compared to what normal consumers paid, you would be green with envy.

What I'm trying to say is, cameras bodies make miniscule-to-no profits for 
camera makers because they have to be able to lock-in customers to buying 
their other products.  This is a fact, and all camera manufacturers work 
this way.  They must sell lenses and accessories to make their living, and 
thus selling fewer bodies would be a bad business decision.

Selling fewer bodies for a higher price would be worse than disappointing a 
few people by pushing back the ship date, or not being able to meet initial 
demand.  At the very least, people who get their cameras first will create a 
buzz about the camera, hopefully causing more people to buy from the next 
shipments.

The same thing happens in other industries all the time.  In the video game 
industry, for example, game consoles often LOSE money for the company that 
makes them (the original XBox is a good example of this).  They exist to 
lock you into buying games and accessories, which make much higher profits 
and drive consumers to buy even more as new games come out.  When the 
initial shipments of XBoxes or Playstations sell out, there is a huge buzz 
amongst consumers who think that, since the system sold out, it must be 
good, therefore I want one.  A huge percentage of consumers are influenced 
this way (sadly, I don't have the statistics to back this up since I was 
laid off) in all sorts of industries, including the photographic industry.

God, I have GOT to stop rambling so much.

John Celio

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