DUH. You said that the removal of K/M lens automation
Wasn't of any importance right after you just said you had recently
discovered The joys of modern automation. THAT'S A REALLY DUMB 
CONTRADICTORY POST. If you can't see that you are blind.
jco

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Shel Belinkoff
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Subject: RE: The JCO survey

It's not an argument - it's how i feel.  I like being able to use my
manual
lenses in fully manual mode.  I often do that with K-mount bodies,
removing
the batteries, shooting without using the built in meter or AE, or using
Super Tak or earlier lenses. Rarely do I use my LX an automatic, much
preferring to set the exposure manually and based on my experience, not
what the meter says.  I can enjoy shooting any damned way I please.  I
enjoy the full spectrum of the options Pentax offers.
I see no contradictions in my comments, nor am I arguing against myself.

Shel



> [Original Message]
> From: J. C. O'Connell 
>
> I am sorry, but this is a really, really, bad argument. On one hand
you
> Are saying you enjoy the "much more enjoyable" automation of "A" and
> later lenses and bodies,  But then on the other hand youre saying that
> removal of the only Automation the K/M lenses have is "of little
> consequence". I am sorry But that is a really ridiculous argument. You
> cant have it both ways dude. Either the automation options are a good
> thing are they arent, you are arguing against yourself in totally
> opposite directions in the same post! 

> -----Original Message-----
> From: > Shel Belinkoff


> Speaking for myself only, and being a die hard manual camera/K-mount
> user,
> I was pleasantly surprised at how much more enjoyable photography had
> become once I started using the A series and later lenses.  I still
love
> the old glass for their optical qualities but I like the newer glass
as
> well.  That I can use the older glass on the DSLR body is a bonus as
far
> as
> I'm concerned.  The lack of the aperture thingy is of little
consequence
> to
> me as I enjoy using the older lenses in "manual mode," which allows me
> some
> of the pleasures that are found in using older cameras, but I can move
> up
> incrementally into more modern lenses and more modern ways of using
the
> camera.  For me, this is great ... ;-))  
>
> Shel
>
>
>
> > [Original Message]
> > From: William Robb 
>
> > the K/M era of full support ended with the film camera 
> > era. Pentax has not made a DSLR that offers it, they do 
> > not feel that it is important, and apparently, most of their 
> > customers agree.
>
>
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