Don't you understand when you buy a new car you 
Are only getting what they are doing lately?
Its not going to do you any good 10 years
Down the road unless you are looking to buy
A 10 year old used car.
jco

-----Original Message-----
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of
Paul Stenquist
Sent: Sunday, October 22, 2006 4:03 PM
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Subject: Re: The JCO survey

No JD Powers isn't just INITIAL quality. Do you always speak  
emphatically of things which you obviously have no knowledge. JD  
Powers researches all manner of things, including long-term  
durability. Why do you always shoot your mouth off without doing any  
research or even any serious thinking? Go here and learn: http:// 
www.jdpower.com/
On Oct 22, 2006, at 3:55 PM, J. C. O'Connell wrote:

> JD powers is INITIAL quality, not how
> Well something is built for long term but rather how
> Well something was assembled & inspected before
> It leaves the factory. PERIOD.
> jco
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On  
> Behalf Of
> graywolf
> Sent: Sunday, October 22, 2006 12:00 PM
> To: Pentax-Discuss Mail List
> Subject: Re: The JCO survey
>
> Ah, bullshit, the american and japanese cars are likely built on the
> same assembly line nowadays. Even as far back as 1980 that was  
> possible,
>
> now it is likely. Hey, Joe, is this a toyota or a chevy, which  
> badge do
> I put on it?
>
> --
>
> J. C. O'Connell wrote:
>> Don't forget that JD powers numbers are only for initial
>> Quality which is essentially how well the car is assembled
>> And inspected before it leaves the factory. It has almost
>> Nothing to do with build quality and long term reliablity.
>> jco
>>
>> -----Original Message-----
>> From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf
> Of
>> Paul Stenquist
>> Sent: Sunday, October 22, 2006 7:28 AM
>> To: Pentax-Discuss Mail List
>> Subject: Re: The JCO survey
>>
>> Look at the JD Power numbers. Toyota and Honda are leaders in  
>> quality,
>
>> but GM is close to the top these days as is Ford. All of the US
>> carmakers outperform the Europeans. It's not opinion. It's fact.
>> On Oct 22, 2006, at 5:11 AM, keith_w wrote:
>>
>>> Paul Stenquist wrote:
>>>> Sorry, but you don't have a clue.
>>> I have a lot more than a clue, Paul
>>> My family and I have lived with various GM cars over the years, as
>> well
>>> as perhaps 30 other vehicles personally.
>>> That includes a number of Chevys and Buicks.
>>> And for me, a preponderance of foreign iron, including Mercedes,
>> Hondas
>>> and Toyotas.
>>>
>>> The Hondas and Toyotas have out-performed and outlasted any of my
>> other
>>> cars, in all respects, without regard to marque.
>>>
>>> GM's shoddy workmanship and inattention to quality control as a way
> of
>>> automotive life, has lost me as a customer for life.
>>>
>>> keith whaley
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