You really ought to get your facts right (especially when
arguing with a monomaniac who will use any trivial error on
your part as an excuse to ignore your whole argument).

The A lenses do not communicate their current aperture setting
electrically; the only information they transmit over the
signal pins is one aperture ring position (A or non-A), and
the maximum aperture of the lens.


On Sun, Oct 22, 2006 at 12:13:15AM -0400, Adam Maas wrote:
> That's what makes them outdated. A and later lenses communicate that 
> information electrically (And F and later ones are electronic).
> 
> -Adam
> 
> 
> J. C. O'Connell wrote:
> > The K/M lenses communicate their fstop
> > Setting via a mechanical cam. The DSLRs
> > Release by pentax ignore that communique.
> > That is the body's fault for not listening
> > As the information is there for the taking.
> > jco
> > 
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of
> > Adam Maas
> > Sent: Saturday, October 21, 2006 11:28 PM
> > To: Pentax-Discuss Mail List
> > Subject: Re: The JCO survey
> > 
> > Of course, that observation is utterly irrelevant to the point of why 
> > K/M lenses are outdated.
> > 
> > They don't support full lens/body communication, since they lack the 
> > firmware and digital communication contacts.
> > 
> > -Adam
> > 
> > 
> > J. C. O'Connell wrote:
> >> The K/M lenses have automation features the new camera
> >> Is not exploiting. That's the DSLR body's
> >> Fault, not the lenses fault.
> >> jco
> >> -----Original Message-----
> >> From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf
> > Of
> >> Adam Maas
> >> Sent: Saturday, October 21, 2006 10:45 PM
> >> To: Pentax-Discuss Mail List
> >> Subject: Re: The JCO survey
> >>
> >> If they weren't outdated, they'd support full body/lens communication.
> > 
> >> Which they don't. Therefore they are outdated.
> >>
> >> -Adam
> >>
> >>
> >> J. C. O'Connell wrote:
> >>> The lenses are not outdated, the new bodies are
> >>> Just too stupid to know how to use them properly.
> >>> jco
> >>>
> >>> -----Original Message-----
> >>> From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf
> >> Of
> >>> William Robb
> >>> Sent: Saturday, October 21, 2006 3:05 PM
> >>> To: Pentax-Discuss Mail List
> >>> Subject: Re: The JCO survey
> >>>
> >>>
> >>> ----- Original Message ----- 
> >>> From: "P. J. Alling"
> >>> Subject: Re: The JCO survey
> >>>
> >>>
> >>>> Of course you can meter with them, if you read the manual, can
> > figure
> >>>> out the contradicting claims and set the proper function.  But just
> >>>> mounting the lens and shooting it doesn't work.  How many people
> >>>> actually wade through the entire manual, except for the anal 
> >>>> retentives
> >>>> on this list, that is.
> >>> It's the anal retentive types that want to use outdated lenses on
> >> modern
> >>> cameras.
> >>>
> >>> William Robb 
> >>>
> >>>
> >>>
> >>
> > 
> > 
> 
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