Well the TOTAL refund INCLUDING postage
Costs both ways is as good as it gets
In the event of a dispute as it's a FULL
Reveral of the purchase which about the
Best possible policy ANYONE on ebay has
In the event a dispute.

Secondly, that lens had a very slight
Loosenees of the front filter ring
(not the front element) which is common
on many used lenses including Pentax
and other brands and it in no way affected
function whatsover including filter usage.
For you to imply I sent you a lens that
Needed ANY repairs for full usage is not
Correct.

I was not rude to you, you were rude to
Me by starting this whole matter on the
List when at the time you gladly accepted
The lens and a partial refund without
Any complaints and REFUSED to accept
The full refund including all postage
Costs. I is totally unfair for you to
Complaing about a deal when you didn't
Complain about the resolution at the time
And REFUSED a total refund IMHO.

Lastly, I did not use abusive language
At the time, I just informed you what
Was wrong with not emailing me at
The time you received the item which
You didn't, it was well after that
And for warranty and insurance claim
Reasons that's a no-no on your part.

jco




-----Original Message-----
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of
Shel Belinkoff
Sent: Thursday, October 26, 2006 7:44 AM
To: Pentax-Discuss Mail List
Subject: RE: Dealing with eBay vendors. Was: Re: The JCO survey

I remembered your total refund offer, I just didn't recall that you
offered
postage as well.  But that doesn't change the way you communicated with
me,
and that's the real issue here - your rude and abusive method of
communicating, that you accused me of damaging the lens, and that
dealing
with you was, for me, an unpleasant experience.

Yes, you have a pretty good eBay rep, based on the numbers of positive
eBay
feedbacks.  But if one reads the feedback some interesting patterns
emerge.
If one were to check your reaction to negative comments or criticism,
they'd see for themselves something of  how you may have communicated
with
me.

While I may not have recalled the exact words you used to describe the
condition of the lens, I do know that you described the lens such that I
believed it to be in good, workable condition,  and that it could be
placed
on the camera and used without need for repair. Would you say that your
description of the lens, regardless of the words used,  "strongly
suggested" such a condition?

BTW, I cast no "dispersions" upon you.

Shel



> [Original Message]
> From: J. C. O'Connell 

> But if you read my posts on the matter
> You would know that it isnt true. By
> His own admission he didn't even remember
> My total refund offer or how the condition
> Was listed. I have a right to complain
> About him as a buyer. He is totally wrong
> On the entire matter and wrong to cast
> Dispersions on me as a seller without
> Giving the truth, the whole truth, and 
> Nothing but the truth. Its damaging when
> Its not all that.
> jco
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf
Of
> William Robb
> Sent: Tuesday, October 24, 2006 8:24 PM
> To: Pentax-Discuss Mail List
> Subject: Re: Dealing with eBay vendors. Was: Re: The JCO survey
>
>
> ----- Original Message ----- 
> From: "Tom C"
> Subject: Re: Dealing with eBay vendors. Was: Re: The JCO survey
>
>
> >
> > The part Shel left out was, that in the end, the transaction was 
> > handled to
> > their mutual satisfaction.
>
> Define "mutual satisfaction".
>
> If I buy something that is defective out of the box, and I return it
to 
> the store for an adjustment, it is entirely possible that the 
> transaction will not be resolved to my satisfaction.
> If the vendor is abusive, or makes the situation as difficult as 
> possible to resolve before resolving it, then there is no mutual 
> satisfaction, even if I get a replacement product or refund.
>
> William Robb 
>
>
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