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From: "Christian"
Subject: Re: Using a Super Tak w/ istDS- A challange to the list?



> Bill is using the "personal experience" argument.  Conduct an
> experiment
> and evaluate the results.  This is very different from the "personal
> opinion" argument.  Granted, Bill is evaluating his experience
> subjectively and it is only based on his experience, but JCO made a
> blanket statement that "ALL people can focus long lenses easier than
> short lenses (at a given f-stop)."  So the argument has turned into
> one
> or two people's experience that show otherwise and JCO's blanket
> statement which, without his own evaluation (he doesn't need to prove
> anything to us with experience), is just his opinion.

I just noted an exception to the rule.
I used to teach this stuff, I expect I am as well versed in optical and
photographic theory as most anyone on this list.
At no time have I said that the optical theory that John has presented
is fallacious.
I have said that I found that in one given set of circumstances, with
one particular camera and two particular focal lengths of lenses that
there is no practical difference in focusing difficulty.
I did this by setting a 105mm lens to f/8, hitting the DOF preview and
focusing it, then releasing the DOF and seeing if I could improve the
focus.
I then repeated the above with a 40mm lens, and noted that in both
cases, the focus had been critically secured when stopped down.

That it's suddenly become a battle for the idealogue of the list and his
sycophant is really kind of sad. They need to get lives.

William Robb



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