John,

I have a 10-17 and love shooting with it.  It's an awesome lens.  I'm  
continually impressed with what it produces, but it is a fish with  
all it's corresponding caveats.   Here are several images shot with  
the Pentax 10-17 fish on the ist-DL:

http://www.mcmm.net/viewimage.php?set=CoastJuly2006&i=IMGP1428.jpg&s=m
http://www.mcmm.net/viewimage.php?set=CoastJuly2006&i=IMGP1429.jpg&s=m
http://www.mcmm.net/viewimage.php?set=CoastJuly2006&i=IMGP1430.jpg&s=m
http://www.mcmm.net/viewimage.php? 
set=oceanside_20060722&i=IMGP1604.jpg&s=m
http://www.mcmm.net/viewimage.php? 
set=oceanside_20060722&i=IMGP1601.jpg&s=m
http://www.mcmm.net/viewimage.php? 
set=Yankees_Seattle_20060824&i=IMGP2058.jpg&s=m
http://www.mcmm.net/viewimage.php? 
set=lost_lake_august_2006&i=IMGP1752.jpg&s=m
http://www.mcmm.net/viewimage.php? 
set=lost_lake_august_2006&i=IMGP1753.jpg&s=m
http://www.mcmm.net/viewimage.php? 
set=lost_lake_august_2006&i=IMGP1759.jpg&s=m
http://www.mcmm.net/viewimage.php? 
set=lost_lake_august_2006&i=IMGP1773.jpg&s=m

I have decided to buy the 16-45 and hope I get the rebate fulfilled  
(though I do not have faith in rebates), and then see what price the  
16-50 comes out at, and sell the 16-45 if it seems like the thing to  
do.  I really like the kit lens; I'm not really all that disappointed  
in it at all despite my earlier comment, but when I want _sharp_ I  
use my 28-m or 50-m normal (50 FA is finally on it's way from BH).

Michael

On Dec 2, 2006, at 11:12 AM, John Francis wrote:

>
> I was almost convinced I wanted the 16-45 until the announcement
> of the 16-50/f2.8.  I never got round to buying the previous
> (film-camera) short zoom to go with my 80-200, but this time I'm
> probably going to get both of them.
>
> My problem is what to do until the 16-50 is available, especially
> since I might want something wide before then for a couple of events.
> I've got an old Vivitar manual focus zoom, but that's only a 21-35.
> I'm considering picking up the fisheye 10-17 (especially with the
> rebates extended until Jan 9th.), but that leaves me with a bit of
> a gap in the mid-wide-angle range.  I suppose I could buy the 18-55
> kit lens with a K10D, but I'm not sure how much I'd use it once the
> 16-50 comes along.  The size isn't likely to matter much on a K10D,
> especially with the grip, but I suppose I could hang on to it as a
> walkaround lens to keep on the *ist-D.
>
> Decisions, decisions ...    What would you do?
>
>
> On Sat, Dec 02, 2006 at 07:48:57AM -0800, Michael Chan wrote:
>> I have been restraining myself from buying the 16-45 for months now,
>> anticipating the weather-sealed lenses.  I had not heard about a
>> 16-50 2.8, which would likely be out of my budget range anyway, and
>> with the rebate it's getting really difficult for me to control my
>> LBA shakes.  Is the 16-45 that far head and shoulder above the kit
>> lens?  I've been pretty impressed with the kit, but it definitely has
>> its shortcomings.
>>
>> On Dec 2, 2006, at 7:20 AM, David J Brooks wrote:
>>
>>> Quoting John Francis <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>:
>>>
>>>> On Fri, Dec 01, 2006 at 08:11:40PM -0500, David J Brooks wrote:
>>>>> Anyone heard if its happining.
>>>>>
>>>>> I would love to get this lens and the K10d
>>>>>
>>>>> Dave
>>>>>
>>>>> Equine Photography in York Region
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> The new lenses aren't due until March of next year.
>>>> Realistically this probably means I won't be able to get my
>>>> hands on one before my Las Vegas trip in early April :-(
>>>
>>> We are heading there in late April for our 25th wedding anniversary,
>>> so maybe i'll be able to get one by then.
>>>
>>> Dave
>>>>
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