Your final thought is an, ABSOLUTELY NOT!

Jack
--- Tom C <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

> Thanks Mark and others who responded to this thread.
> 
> I was thinking out loud to my wife about this last night and reached 
> somewhat the same conclusions you did Mark...  that either the person
> or 
> business entity that wants to use the photos  is likely going to
> profit from 
> it in some manner.  Ivana could just be collecting photos to compile
> and 
> sell calendars, for all I know. If that's the case, I above anyone,
> deserve 
> to profit from my photos.
> 
> While I may 'giveaway' photos to friends or allow them to use them
> for free 
> personal use, their should be no expectation by a stranger who wishes
> to 
> publish my photos for a commercial use, that they come without a
> price 
> attached.
> 
> I also agree that the suggestion the photos could be used at the web 
> resolution and size is not very comforting and tends to make me think
> that 
> she was hoping to use the pictures without charge, which is an
> unrealistic 
> expectation, nor would I give my permission for such use.  I also
> would not 
> send out a high resolution image file without payment in hand first
> to 
> someone halfway around the world.
> 
> Thanks for the good advice from all.
> 
> Tom C.
> 
> 
> >From: Mark Cassino <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> >Reply-To: Pentax-Discuss Mail List <[email protected]>
> >To: Pentax-Discuss Mail List <[email protected]>
> >Subject: Re: Request for photos
> >Date: Mon, 11 Dec 2006 21:25:44 -0500
> >
> >Tom -
> >
> >This is where working with a good stock agency comes in handy. Then
> you
> >can say "Sorry - that photo is licensed to so-and-so stock and you
> need
> >to talk to them about it." Then the agency can sell it for $75 and
> give
> >you half. :-)
> >
> >On a more serious note - I'd ask them what they are using the photo
> for,
> >what the intended distribution is, and then quote a price that feels
> fair.
> >
> >I don't mind giving away photos for charities or environmental
> groups
> >that are promoting things I agree with. But it's silly to let
> someone
> >sell your work and make money off your image without giving you a
> cut.
> >You have to figure out how much money they will make off the deal,
> how
> >much of the effort you feel you are contributing, and ask for what
> seems
> >to be fair.
> >
> >That said - if you are getting good publicity and get a reasonable
> price
> >($100-$200 would be my ball park for an item sold for profit) then
> I'd
> >go for it.
> >
> >The one thing about the offer that gives me pause is that they would
> >consider using the web sized image. If your work is going to be
> >presented to the public it needs to be presented in the best
> possible
> >light. What kind of outfit would say "We can use the photo off
> photo.net
> >but it will look bad"?  they are basically saying "We'd like to use
> your
> >image in a product and we don't care about the quality of that
> product.
> >Wow...
> >
> >I frequently send out high res tiffs to publishers. Larger higher
> >profile magazines will usually hit you up with their forms so that
> you
> >can certify that you have copyright to the image and can sell it
> >unencumbered, etc. With them I use their forms but read closely so
> you
> >are certain that you retain the copyright and that there are no
> hidden
> >"republication" clauses etc.  Most of the publishers I've dealt with
> are
> >honest.
> >
> >If the publisher doesn't send a form I just generate an invoice with
> >basic invoice info (who I am, who I'm selling to, the price.) Under
> >'items sold' I just put "One time nontransferable nonexclusive
> license
> >to reproduce XXX copies of <image name> effective for XXX days from
> date
> >of invoice." The XXX's are the stuff you negotiate with them in
> advance.
> >
> >"One time" means no republishing. "Non-transferable" means they
> can't
> >broker the image to someone else. "Non-exclusive" means that you can
> >sell the image again. The limit on the number of copies and date
> lets
> >you control usage. If you are paranoid, send them the invoice in
> advance
> >with a line that says "I understand agree to these terms." Have
> someone
> >sign it and return it before delivering the photo.
> >
> >I never have seen a point in limited the geographic area where
> something
> >is printed or in limiting the language. However, those are often
> >standard clauses in publication agreements.
> >
> >As for sending out the high rez file - if I don't trust them, I
> don't do
> >business with them. That simple.  So far I have never been burned
> >(though one struggling magazine took a couple of years to finally
> make
> >good on a $100 sale...)
> >
> >Good luck -
> >
> >MCC
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >Tom C wrote:
> > > Hi Gang,
> > >
> > > I'm just curious how you would respond to the following.  Any
> ideas 
> >would
> > > help me out.  Thanks.
> > >
> > > Tom C.
> > >
> > > -------------------------
> > >
> > >> Dear Mr Thomas Cakalic,
> > >>
> > >> My name is Ivana Reic, B. Sc. Design from Croatia. I saw Your
> photos on
> > >> photo.net, and choose part of your photo: *Seasons End **&
> Fractal
> > >> Frost_*for table calendar/planner. Planner would be printed for
> small
> > >> company (500
> > >> peaces) as a gift for business partners. So, I am sending You
> this 
> >request
> > >> for using a part of your photo (see attachment) for this
> project.
> > >>
> > >> For better printing of Your photo I would like You to e-mail me 
> >*Seasons
> > >> End
> > >> **& Fractal Frost_* in higher resolution, 150 dpi. Even better
> if You 
> >can
> > >> send whole photo. Dimensions of the printed material - photo are
> > >> approximately 30 cm x 11 cm (final dimensions I will receive
> from 
> >printing
> > >> office on Sunday evening). As You can see, this is a small table
> > >> calendar/planner. If this is not possible I will use lowres
> photo from
> > >> photo.net site *but it won t be very nice even after photoshop.
> I need 
> >to
> > >> finish editing by Monday 27th at 7am (CE time), and delivery of
> printed
> > >> material for investors must be 7.12.2006. After that there is no
> 
> >problem
> > >> for
> > >> me to send you by post few copies, and if You like a .pdf file
> by
> > >> e-mail. Send me all informations that You want me to edit at the
> bottom 
> >of
> > >> Your photo.
> > >>
> > >> What are Your terms besides printing Your name and name of the
> photo on 
> >the
> > >> calendar?
> 
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