Who would they be impressing? Certainly not
anyone who knows anything about cameras. I
would be more impressed seeing a true high end
point and shoot then I would seeing an entry level
DSLR with a cheap kit lens on it all the time. To each his
own I guess....
jco

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Adam Maas
Sent: Saturday, December 16, 2006 8:15 AM
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Subject: Re: Luminous Landscape: Reichmann tries out a K10D


Same reason they drive a SUV, but never go off-road. It's more
impressive.

-Adam


J. C. O'Connell wrote:
> If someone is going to buy a DSLR, but it's NOT
> to use multiple lenses, WHY would they buy
> a DSLR in the first place? The only answer I
> can think of is for better image quality and
> you are not going to get that from a cheap
> supernormal zoom lens. They would be much better
> served buying a high end P&S cemera with a really
> good lens on it ( even over a DSLR with a really
> good supernormal lens on it) because
> it would be smaller, lighter, and can have a lens
> system optimized for the sensor without the limitations
> a reflex system imposes IMHO. To me, the main advantage
> of an SLR/DSLR is the ability to change lenses
> to meet the specific requirement. And I dont believe
> that a supernormal zoom can meet 99% of a typical
> person's shooting needs. A majority, maybe yes, but 99% NO. And your 
> example of using three primes is not the same as one zoom because 
> primes typically offer way better image quality than cheap zooms do, 
> as well as tyically being smaller and faster than supernormal zooms of

> the same range. jco
> 
> -----Original Message-----
> From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf 
> Of Mark Cassino
> Sent: Saturday, December 16, 2006 12:56 AM
> To: Pentax-Discuss Mail List
> Subject: Re: Luminous Landscape: Reichmann tries out a K10D
> 
> 
> I have a good selection of lenses on hand, even after i sold off the
> ones I bought as 'collectables' a few year ago. In reality, many go 
> unused for months at a time (or longer.) I last used my A* 300 f4 on 
> vacation in July, 2005. I can't remember when I last used the Sigma
14mm
> 
> f 3.5 or the A* 400 f 2.8.
> 
> I set aside serious time for photography and try to take a disciplined
> approach to actively producing images. At the end of the day, a
handful 
> of lenses does most of the work, and aside from specialized macro
work, 
> a normal prime and standard zoom are the real workhorses.
> 
> I do a lot of Medium Format shooting with 3 lenses - 55mm to 170. The
> same focal length range is covered by a 28-80 mm lens in 35mm format,
or
> 
> 18-55mm lens in APS-C format.
> 
> I'd suspect that for a more casual shooters good normal zoom would 
> fill
> the bill for 99% of their shooting needs, and the cost / benefit ratio

> doesn't justify the purchase of a new lens for that 1%.
> 
> I wouldn't expect the typical DSLR buyer to pony up for more lenses.
> (Unless they subscribe to this list and get the bug...)
> 
> IMO - the smart marketing money would be to put a good  lens in the 
> kit
> - sharp, minimal distortion and light falloff, good close focusing -
and
> 
> realize that many people will just use that. Better to have people 
> happy
> 
> with the results of their kit lens, and giving good feedback about 
> their
> 
> camera, than giving them a junk lens and hoping they will upgrade.
> 
> FWIW - I haven't tested the 18-55mm but it seems like a reasonably 
> good
> lens. Noticeable light fall off and softness in the in the corners
wide 
> open, but not bad stopped down to f8 or 11. But that's just a casual 
> observation.
> 
> - MCC
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
> Gonz wrote:
>> Just as I suspected.  I'll bet its the same pretty much everywhere.  
>> I know of at least 7 people personally in my area with DSLRs, only 1 
>> of them has more than two lenses and one has two.  The rest all have 
>> 1 lens.  The person with more than two is a pdml subscriber so I met 
>> him
> 
>> through the list, therefore he almost doesnt count in this quick
> survey.
>> Most of these people I know bought the camera with a kit lens or
>> bought
>> their own higher end zoom.
>>
>> rg
>>
>>
>> [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
>>> ----- Original Message -----
>>> From: "Adam Maas"
>>> Subject: Re: Luminous Landscape: Reichmann tries out a K10D
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>> That's certainly the case with most buyers of base-model DSLR's,
>>>> just like it was for base model SLR's back in the days of film. I 
>>>> doubt its 90%, but 70% is probably close.
>>> I just talked to the one knowledgable sales person at Don's Photo.
>>> She say that 75-80% buy the camera and kit lens and at some point
buy
> 
>>> a longer zoom , and perhaps 15-20% will eventually buy a second 
>>> lens,
> 
>>> with very a few buying more than that, generally because they have
>>> decided they have a specific need or want. This may not be an 
>>> accurate market indication, just a local snapshot.
>>>
>>> William Robb
>>>
>>>
>>>
> 
> 


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