I'm only reciting what the shop owner told me. (??)

Jack
--- Thibouille <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

> Mmm Tamron rebadge? Does Tamron make low end 18-55?
> Wouldn't it be a Sigma instead?
> 
> 2006/12/16, Jack Davis <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>:
> > I mentioned this about a year ago, but will do a quick FWIW recap.
> > Local photo shop owner after attending a photo convention, (I
> forget
> > which one), decided to stock the *ist DL, due to its great "price
> > point". He wondered if the 18~55 was at least equal to a like
> Promaster
> > (Tamron re-badge) so asked if I'd do a comparison.
> > I did not retain the results, but suffice to say that the Pentax
> was
> > much superior!. Shop owner was instantly convinced that in-camera
> image
> > processing still needs the benefit of a 'good' lens.
> > Of course it's recognized that sample QC range will certainly vary
> in
> > consideration of manufacturing costs.
> >
> > Jack
> > --- Mark Cassino <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> >
> > > I have a good selection of lenses on hand, even after i sold off
> the
> > > ones I bought as 'collectables' a few year ago. In reality, many
> go
> > > unused for months at a time (or longer.) I last used my A* 300 f4
> on
> > > vacation in July, 2005. I can't remember when I last used the
> Sigma
> > > 14mm
> > > f 3.5 or the A* 400 f 2.8.
> > >
> > > I set aside serious time for photography and try to take a
> > > disciplined
> > > approach to actively producing images. At the end of the day, a
> > > handful
> > > of lenses does most of the work, and aside from specialized macro
> > > work,
> > > a normal prime and standard zoom are the real workhorses.
> > >
> > > I do a lot of Medium Format shooting with 3 lenses - 55mm to 170.
> The
> > >
> > > same focal length range is covered by a 28-80 mm lens in 35mm
> format,
> > > or
> > > 18-55mm lens in APS-C format.
> > >
> > > I'd suspect that for a more casual shooters good normal zoom
> would
> > > fill
> > > the bill for 99% of their shooting needs, and the cost / benefit
> > > ratio
> > > doesn't justify the purchase of a new lens for that 1%.
> > >
> > > I wouldn't expect the typical DSLR buyer to pony up for more
> lenses.
> > > (Unless they subscribe to this list and get the bug...)
> > >
> > > IMO - the smart marketing money would be to put a good  lens in
> the
> > > kit
> > > - sharp, minimal distortion and light falloff, good close
> focusing -
> > > and
> > > realize that many people will just use that. Better to have
> people
> > > happy
> > > with the results of their kit lens, and giving good feedback
> about
> > > their
> > > camera, than giving them a junk lens and hoping they will
> upgrade.
> > >
> > > FWIW - I haven't tested the 18-55mm but it seems like a
> reasonably
> > > good
> > > lens. Noticeable light fall off and softness in the in the
> corners
> > > wide
> > > open, but not bad stopped down to f8 or 11. But that's just a
> casual
> > > observation.
> > >
> > > - MCC
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > > Gonz wrote:
> > > > Just as I suspected.  I'll bet its the same pretty much
> everywhere.
> > >  I
> > > > know of at least 7 people personally in my area with DSLRs,
> only 1
> > > of
> > > > them has more than two lenses and one has two.  The rest all
> have 1
> > >
> > > > lens.  The person with more than two is a pdml subscriber so I
> met
> > > him
> > > > through the list, therefore he almost doesnt count in this
> quick
> > > survey.
> > > >
> > > > Most of these people I know bought the camera with a kit lens
> or
> > > bought
> > > > their own higher end zoom.
> > > >
> > > > rg
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
> > > >> ----- Original Message -----
> > > >> From: "Adam Maas"
> > > >> Subject: Re: Luminous Landscape: Reichmann tries out a K10D
> > > >>
> > > >>
> > > >>
> > > >>> That's certainly the case with most buyers of base-model
> DSLR's,
> > > just
> > > >>> like it was for base model SLR's back in the days of film. I
> > > doubt its
> > > >>> 90%, but 70% is probably close.
> > > >>
> > > >> I just talked to the one knowledgable sales person at Don's
> Photo.
> > > >> She say that 75-80% buy the camera and kit lens and at some
> point
> > > buy a
> > > >> longer zoom , and perhaps 15-20% will eventually buy a second
> > > lens, with
> > > >> very a few buying more than that, generally because they have
> > > decided
> > > >> they have a specific need or want.
> > > >> This may not be an accurate market indication, just a local
> > > snapshot.
> > > >>
> > > >> William Robb
> > > >>
> > > >>
> > > >>
> > > >
> > >
> > >
> > > --
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> > > Kalamazoo
> > > www.markcassino.com
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