If you won't to debate my personal habits, why don't pick something more important like the use of my car?
I believe I know the answer to my question. Tim Mostly harmless (just plain Norwegian) -----Original Message----- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Paul Stenquist Sent: 29. desember 2006 04:49 To: Pentax-Discuss Mail List Subject: Re: Doomsday is coming upon us? I would guess that one smoker contributes very little to the generation of CO2. On the other hand, I would expect that millions or maybe even billions of smokers burning tobacco leaves all day long are a substantial part of the problem. I'm sure it should be part of this thread. Why wouldn't it be? Paul On Dec 28, 2006, at 10:10 PM, Tim Øsleby wrote: > To put it simple (I like it simple). Smoking is plain stupidity. > There many reasons why it is stupid. My personal life span is one > example. > You have listed several others. > > It is also an environmental problem. But not because of global > heating. The > impact on global heating is similar to the impact of a mouse fart. The > environmental problem is in pesticides used when growing the > tobacco. The > other problem is all the chemicals used in making the end product. > But those > chemicals have no known impact on global heating. > > As I said. Bash on. I don't feel uncomfortable with it at all. But > please do > it in a thread unrelated to the global heating issue. > Title the thread Tim is a liar and thief if you want to ;-) > > > Tim > Mostly harmless (just plain Norwegian) > > > -----Original Message----- > From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On > Behalf Of Tom > C > Sent: 29. desember 2006 02:22 > To: pdml@pdml.net > Subject: RE: Doomsday is coming upon us? > >> Aren't we going OT now? >> >> I have an urge to say that I don't feel that my smoking habits are >> the real >> issue. To me, this seems like a smokescreen (pun intended) >> cowering the >> real >> debate. >> >> But by all means, bash on if you feel uncomfortable debating. >> >> >> Tim > > How can you go OT on an OT? :-) > > Actually I think Bill's point is relevant. Why? Because we tend to > view our > own behavior as acceptable and normal and expect others to do the > changing. > > However when the finger points back at us, we're uncomfortable. > > While little old you smoking X cigarettes a day may have a > negligible effect > > on pollution on a global scale (just like other single persons > taking long > showers or driving gas-guzzling SUV's), it has a much larger effect > when we > shrink the picture down a little or when we look at the cumulative > effect. > > Your behavior is clearly dichotomous... Wanting to save the planet > while at > > the same time almost assuredly shortening the time span of your > existence on > > it, both lessening your time to enjoy it and the time you might > have to make > > a difference. > > The cost in health care and missed productivity due to smoking related > ailments is huge. Next calculate how much time and energy (human > and fossil > fuel) is wasted annually in an industry that essentially provides a > delivery > > method for a drug that induces a slow suicide. Then there's the > smoking > mothers whose babies may have future health issues and possible > lower IQ's, > putting a bigger drain on health care and education systems. > > I'm not bashing you. I'm not criticizing you. You work in the social > welfare field though and are sure aware of the implications of one's > personal behavior. OK, I just had to get that little one in. :-) > > > > Tom C. > > > > > > >>> On 12/28/06, William Robb <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: >>>> >>>> ----- Original Message ----- >>>> From: "Tim Øsleby" Subject: RE: Doomsday is coming upon us? >>>> >>>> >>>>> Agreed. That's why I smoke outside rain or cold. You could argue >>>>> that I >>>>> pollute the environment. That's true, but I don't think it is >>>>> significant. >>>> >>>> Tim, this is pretty much the argument that you have been on the >>>> other side >>>> of. >>>> No one person makes a significant impact, so why should any one >>>> person >>>> change their habits, be it driving a large vehicle, taking long >>>> hot showers >>>> or whatever else they do that is environmentally harmful? >>>> >>>> William Robb >>>> >>>> >>>> -- >>>> PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List >>>> PDML@pdml.net >>>> http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net >>>> >>> >>> -- >>> PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List >>> PDML@pdml.net >>> http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net >> >> DagT >> >> >> >> >> -- >> PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List >> PDML@pdml.net >> http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net >> >> >> >> >> >> -- >> PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List >> PDML@pdml.net >> http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net > > > > > > > -- > PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List > PDML@pdml.net > http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net
