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From: "Gonz" Subject: Re: PESO - American Fence


>
>>
>> Straw man argument, Peter.
>> Gun crimes are more likely to end up with the victim being more seriously
>> hurt or dead than other types of weapons crimes, and can be used at range
>> where the victim has less chance of self defence.
>>
> True, but he's right about it being a symptom of something deeper.  If
> you put large amounts of guns in the hands of people in Japan, its not
> going to have any where near the same effect as if you put them in the
> hands of people in Rwanda or Nigeria.   High violent crime rate usually
> points to something deeper in the social fabric than just the
> availability of weapons.

You'll get no argument from me on that one, but it is also not germaine.

William Robb 


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