> I know nothing of how Microsoft does their OS development testing, > but I know that at Apple we always tested a huge list of existing > applications extensively in development with new OS revisions to > ensure the greatest amount of upward compatibility possible. There > are occasions, however, where the OS development team has to make a > decision as to whether to patch around an application's particular > use of OS services (whether in error or because the OS service > behavior had to change for one reason or another) or simply let the > application break and tell the vendor to update it. Things that were > allowed to break were never taken lightly.
I somewhat doubt M$ behaves the same. If Apple (I have no reason to doubt your words BTW) does indeed what you say then I am respectful to them. They take their responsabilities and I perfectly understand sometimes they have to make choices. Nothing against that. > Then it's up to the vendor to take on the burden of fixing their > problem and putting out an update. MOST of the time, such updates are > small things and the vendor absorbs the cost, provides a free > incremental update (like PS CS2 going from v9.0 to v9.0.2) but > sometimes, if the amount of work required is substantial, they have > no choice but to incorporate the fix into a paid update (like going > from PS CS2 to PS CS3) and places a backwards compatibility limit on > that version of the application to OS versioning. This is exactly what I'm talking about: fixes not enhanced capabilities. v9.0 -> 9.02 is indded a good example. if ACR 3 is only comatiblme with CS2, OK if then still update ACR2 with new cameras. I don't expect to get new capabilities without paying for that: sure it would be nice but I'm not stupid. > There are also questions of implementation dependence ... For > instance, Lightroom v4.1 beta and v1.0 release is dependent upon some > OS services that were first released on Mac OS X in v10.4.2. So you > cannot install it on Mac OS X v10.3.9 ... and it is neither Apple's > responsibility nor Adobe's responsibility to compensate you for an > update as the software didn't exist in the v10.3.9 lifespan. With beta softwares, nobody is responsible for anything. Otherwise one shouldn't use beta software.period. > It's up to you to decide whether the application is worth the expense > of updating your system as well as purchase the software package. If > you choose not to, and decide to use other software even if this > package is better suited to your needs, that's your option. I see no > reason to complain about it, or make defamatory remarks about Adobe's > pricing. Adobe's pricing is high. I have no necessary background to claim it is prohibitive. It is overpriced *for my use*. What wanna have for this price is the certainty an expensive software like PS will work with next OS. With fixes, of course but that they will do their best to fix any compatibility issue and AFAIK there is no certainty as there is no "contract" they have to honour. > Adobe's products are some of the best supported in the industry, on > either OS platform. I have never felt like I was paying too much > given the level of excellent support I get whenever I have a > question. They're not cheap but they're worth it to me. I don't doubt the support provided byu either Adobe or the community of users. I imagine support is pretty good (for the price, it is normal). I wouldn't want to be in a situation like that: Imagine myself 6 months ago: I'm a "normal" user which means I'm not playing with beta from next OSes blabla, I buy PS CS2 and then Vista comes and I realize it is not compatible (or has quite restricted capabilities) when run under Vista. Basicaly I'm f*****, I'm not? > Godfrey BTW Godfrey since you seem to be pretty much used to Adobe softwares, do you think Adobe supports all their softwares the same way? I mean, is PSE well supported? I'm sure I could be satisfied with PSE * if they support it as what Adobe brand would lead me to beleive they would*. I don't ask the same support as PS CS, of course, you pay for that too. -- Thibault Massart aka Thibouille ---------------------- *ist-D,Z1,SuperA,KX,MX, P30t and KR-10x ;) ... -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List [email protected] http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net
