I simply enjoy the process of making images, evaluating them and the
works of others, in the glorious freedom of a simple mind.

Jack
--- William Robb <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

> 
> ----- Original Message ----- 
> From: "Jack Davis"
> Subject: Re: Comparing Photos
> 
> 
> > "Good" is such a subjective term. I wouldn't have thought it
> necessary
> > to point out, but each image plays off of a variety of tastes. I
> don't
> > put up an image with the idea that it is one of my best nor do I
> look
> > at any ones offering in that way. We must always allow individual
> style
> > without a critical comment that does not carry the understanding
> that
> > it is my own narrow opinion.
> > I've read critiques that actually cause me to chuckle at their lack
> of
> > artistic aptitude. Again, scored on my own scale.
> > Identifying your photographer's of choice is a surprise. Omission
> can
> > be a harsh rebuff and should have been avoided. Present company not
> > included, BTW.
> 
> In this case, a cigar is just a cigar. The three people I mentioned
> came to 
> mind simply because they are regular posters and their work is mostly
> 
> dissimilar to each others' work.
> No insult intended or entertained in this instance.
> 
> Judging photographs is a subjective activity. There are no goal posts
> to 
> tell if a point has been scored, no real way of objectifying the
> quality of 
> the image.
> If you like it, you like it, if you don't, you don't.
> One may be able to say why they like or dislike an image, one may be
> able to 
> apply the classic rules of composition and use that as a measuring
> stick to 
> say whether the composition works or not, but this isn't necessarily
> a 
> reliable measure.
> What happens though, if an image breaks every compositional rule, and
> still 
> works? Is the image wrong?, or are the rules wrong?
> Or is the viewer wrong?
> I've worked as a contest judge. I don't know if this makes me better
> at 
> deciding if a picture is worthy or not, but it does give me some
> practical 
> experience at doing it. Does it mean I know every rule there is to
> know? 
> Hardly.
> Does it make me a better photographer than the people whose work I
> was 
> judging?
> Maybe, maybe not, though I think not for the ones who 's work I
> liked.
> It just meant that a group of peers decided that I was qualified to
> look at 
> a bunch of pictures and put ribbons on the ones I liked best.
> 
> We saw an image from Tom C a few days ago, a picture which is as good
> as 
> anything I have seen anywhere anytime, by anybody.
> Did it obey the rules of composition? Frankly, I don't know or care.
> All I 
> know was that I was gobsmacked when I saw it, and I didn't see any
> point in 
> dismantling it to see if it followed the "rules".
> 
> A while later, he posted another one which I thought wasn't as strong
> an 
> image, but I thought it had some potential, so I took it and played
> with it 
> a bit. In turn, this caused Tom to revisit it himself.
> Personally, I didn't like either of his renderings as much as my own,
> but 
> this is just one man's opinion.
> 
> Does this mean I think he is getting worse, rather than better? Not
> at all. 
> Growth happens over time, years, not days is the measure for this.
> 
> Even the descriptives we use is subjective, and open to
> interpretation.
> I will use excellent as a descriptive, Jens will use brilliant.
> Is one more descriptive than the other? It's hard to say, as it
> depends on 
> the vocabulary of the reviewer as much as anything else.
> One person will politely say the image leaves them cold, someone
> cruder will 
> just say the picture sucks.
> Ultimately, they are saying the same thing, and may be saying it with
> the 
> same degree of conviction as well.
> 
> Well, that was a bit of a ramble.
> 
> William Robb 
> 
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