On 3/02/07 7:56 AM, "Toralf Lund", <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

> But what if you were standing a bit closer to the building (or "palace",
> I should perhaps say) in the first picture - say, next to that ice
> sculpture lit up in blue - and photographing some people up on the
> balcony (as it's usually called, although it's been argued that it's
> actually a veranda ;-))?

I never thought pop-ups are strong enough for any of the situation you
described.  There may be a special effect to light up only a small part and
ice sculpture might be one of them.
Despite the argument that pop-ups are useless and pro-gears should not have
them etc, I think it's useful if you know when to use it.
I have only two occasions to use it.  One is day-time fill flash when you do
not have an external flash, which is mostly the case when you go out for
snap shot etc.  In the situations such as back light, or bright sunshine
with the subject in shadow, fill flash gives you so much better pics than
using spot metering etc which tend to blow out the highlight. And the pop-up
has just a right strength.

The other occasion is a close-quarter indoor people shot and external flash
might be too strong or ceiling is too low etc etc.  Plus I usually have no
time to fiddle around and bring out a large flash etc.  The only problem is
that it has no bounce and is too harsh for indoor close quarter shot.  I
found a diffuser for pop-up and so far it's working exceptionally well.  For
a lazy guy like me who tend not to reach out for a clumsy tripod or an
external flash, pop-ups are great even thought some might despise them.
However, I never even thought about using it for large subject or anything
farther than a few meters.

Ken


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