> 
> From: "P. J. Alling" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> Date: 2007/03/13 Tue AM 12:47:52 GMT
> To: Pentax-Discuss Mail List <[email protected]>
> Subject: Re: Simplified PS workflow
> 
> If that's all the "middle men" did you'd be right.  They do a hell of a 
> lot more than that.  The view you express was discredited 150 years ago.

What else can they do?  You have a producer and a retailer, who could be one 
and the same if the circumstances are right.  The only point to anyone else is 
to move the product from the producer to the retailer.  The majority of 
hand-picked produce is for direct consumption, without processing.  Food for 
processing is generally picked by machine, as appearance is less important.

> 
> mike wilson wrote:
> > [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
> >
> >   
> >> In a message dated 3/12/2007 7:47:54 A.M. Pacific Daylight Time,  
> >> [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
> >> Er, no.  The crops would be slightly  more expensive but would still be 
> >> there.
> >>
> >> ============
> >> Citizens, on the  whole, won't pick crops.
> >>
> >> In California, the biggest pool of  housecleaners, caregivers, gardeners, 
> >> and 
> >> casual day laborers (mainly  construction), is also illegals. No one else 
> >> will do the work. In my immediate  area there are a lot of Tongans filling 
> >> those 
> >> posts. Not all CA illegals are  Latino. Any country that has a depressed 
> >> economy will have some illegals in  California. The average stay for an 
> >> illegal is 
> >> two years. They make their money  and go home.(I saw the results of study 
> >> once, though admittedly a study was  probably hard to do.) I used to live 
> >> in an 
> >> area with a check cashing place that  I used. That area also had a lot of 
> >> illegals -- they used the check cashing  place to send money home each 
> >> week. It also 
> >> had a phone where they could call  home if they paid enough.
> >>
> >> Besides we have to compete with places like  Mexico that grow crops where 
> >> the 
> >> pickers are paid squat. (Not to mention that  small CA farmers, as in not 
> >> agribusiness, operate on small margins). And other  foreign countries were 
> >> the 
> >> pay is terrible. Competing with third world countries  is just a fact of 
> >> life 
> >> now.
> >>
> >> If decent wages had to be paid for all crop  picking, decent enough for no 
> >> illegals being hired, most of CA's remaining  agricultural would crash 
> >> (despite 
> >> agribusiness and some crops that don't have to  be picked by hand. There 
> >> are 
> >> many hand picked crops here.). In fact, several  small economies in CA 
> >> would 
> >> crash.
> >>     
> >
> > I saw some figures recently that suggested that the labour cost involved 
> > in crop picking was somewhat less than 1/10th of the retail price at the 
> > most.  You could double the wages and the retail price would only go up 
> > marginally.  Most cost is added by the middlemen who do nothing but move 
> > the stuff around.
> >
> >   
> >>  
> >> What is and what "should be" are two different things.
> >>
> >> Marnie aka  Doe 
> >>  
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