----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Cory Papenfuss"
Subject: Re: 645D Musings



>  Throwing in the, "You don't have experience with photography so
> you cannot possibly know what you're talking about" card again?  I do so
> grow weary of that.  The original comments were querying the comparison
> between the different sensor sizes vs. film.  The primary difference
> between them all is technical (i.e. quality).  Secondary effects are
> artifacts of the format.
>
>  So where does all this elitism so rampant on this list come from?
> Rather tiresome.

Cory, you've said yourself that you have trouble with visualizing, 
specifically:

"I am cursed by the fact that I do not trust my own preference 
for"pleasing/accurate," ...."

Don't jump on me for believing you, educate your eye instead.

Photography is not about technical quality, it is about visualization, it's 
about what we see when we look at a picture on a piece of paper.
As long as the technical quality reaches a benchmark of acceptability for 
that picture, it doesn't matter after that.

I made a 16x20 print of a picture of one of my dogs. If you look at it 
hanging on the wall, the initial impression is that it is made from a larger 
negative than 35mm because there is no grain. Of course, it was made from a 
K10 digital file, which accounts for the lack of grain.
Looking at the picture closer, the educated eye can see that while there is 
no grain, there is also a lack of really fine detail where one would expect 
to see it, if, in fact, it had been shot with a medium format camera.
However, the picture works, since with portraiture, we accept a certain lack 
of fine detail.

When I tell people that the picture they have shown deserves a Wisner, I am, 
in effect, saying that the picture, while well visualized and executed, 
won't meet my own personal criteria for technical quality, simply because I 
know the medium they are using won't capture the amount of fine detail I 
believe is necessary for the particular genre of image in question.

When I bought my istD (I was one of the first people on list to have one), I 
recall noting that the image quality looked like medium format film due to 
the lack of grain, but also like 35mm film because of the lack of fine 
detail.
I didn't have to take out a micrometer to figure this out. At the risk of 
sounding like an elitist, I've been doing this stuff for the better part of 
4 decades, I know what I am talking about. If I come across as harsh, I 
apologize, but I think people try to quantize a lot of stuff that wouldn't 
require quantization if they took the time to visually educate themselves.

You will recall that when I replied to the comment you posted, I told you 
exactly that.

Be well

William Robb



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