In a message dated 10/20/2001 3:34:36 PM US Eastern Standard Time, 
[EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:

> 
>  Erm, well... der. Slaps an "A-duh" sticker on his forehead. So then why is
>  B&W different than c-41? 

Well, duh,  because it isn't C41 chemistry unless you use the chromogenics 
like CN or XP2.

>I've also pushed c41 with decent results 

I, too, have pushed C41 with "grainy as hell" results.

(read-
>  grainy as hell), though not nearly as much as b&w.

The graininess of pushed b/w increases, of course, with the extremity of the 
push. One or two stops usually yield acceptable results, but I prefer use 
faster film. Of course that creates grain, too. 
 
>  Nick
  
Regards, 
Ed M.
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