NO, thats not my point, the licensing agreements are to the issue of where the DVD players with various region coding can be sold legally. When I say legally I mean without violation of the legal licensing agreements..
-----Original Message----- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Tom C Sent: Thursday, April 19, 2007 4:37 PM To: [email protected] Subject: RE: OT - for those of you who have DVD equip thatcanplayPALsystemDVD's If it's illegal, how can numerous businesses operating legally in the USA sell multi-region hardware without reaping the punishment for breaking the supposed law forbidding it? When I buy a region 1 DVD and watch it on multi-region player or a region 1 player I am abiding by the license agreement. When I purchase a region 2 DVD and watch it on my multi-region player I am abiding by the license agreement. License agreements don't tell me what kind of hardware I must watch a DVD on. Tom C. >From: "J. C. O'Connell" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> >Reply-To: Pentax-Discuss Mail List <[email protected]> >To: "'Pentax-Discuss Mail List'" <[email protected]> >Subject: RE: OT - for those of you who have DVD equip >thatcanplayPALsystemDVD's >Date: Thu, 19 Apr 2007 16:30:19 -0400 > >Licensing agreements are legally binding. Breaking >them is illegal. there doesnt have to be a law >written against breaking licensing agreements, that >is assumed and enforcable. > >Playing the devils advocate, if you think the hardware >and software providers can legally disregard >the region coding issues, why would it even have >been developed in the first place? > >jco > >-----Original Message----- >From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of >Tom C >Sent: Thursday, April 19, 2007 3:55 PM >To: [email protected] >Subject: RE: OT - for those of you who have DVD equip >thatcanplayPALsystemDVD's > > >I don't think it's a legal issue. It's an issue of how the industry >has > >decided to market to us. Please read my other posts on the subject as >well. > > >think about it for a second, if > >region free players or cross regioned > >players were available legally > >anywhere, the entire region coding > >system would make no sense to > >designa and implement! > >The vast majority of the DVD-watching/buying public have no clue that >region codes even exist. A certain percentage of them still refer to a >DVD as a >CD. They have no interest in out-of-region DVD's and are not aware of >their >existence, so the region-code enforcement works, de facto, without the >need >for a law. > >If it's not a law, it can't be illegal. I'll believe it's illegal when >you provide proof that a law exists instead of just supposing one does. > >Tom C. > > > >From: "J. C. O'Connell" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > >Reply-To: Pentax-Discuss Mail List <[email protected]> > >To: "'Pentax-Discuss Mail List'" <[email protected]> > >Subject: RE: OT - for those of you who have DVD equip > >thatcanplayPALsystemDVD's > >Date: Thu, 19 Apr 2007 15:34:26 -0400 > > > >yes, but it was probably not legal. > > > > > >The reason 999.999% of the DVDs > >sold in USA are region 1 coded is > >because only those players are > >legal in americe. > >These cross code or no code players are not available > >in the usa NOT for demand reasons, > >its a LEGAL issue to be selling them > >in the USA. > > > >It might be a liscesing > >issue ( anyone making DVD players > >has to acquire the DVD licensing > >rights which may require them to > >agree to not sell region defeating > >players or sell players with cross > >regioning.) > > > >think about it for a second, if > >region free players or cross regioned > >players were available legally > >anywhere, the entire region coding > >system would make no sense to > >designa and implement! > > > >The whole point > >of it is that movie releases can have > >controlled release timing in the various > >regions based on when the content > >provider wants to release it in the > >various regions of the world. This is > >necessary because sometimes the theatrical > >release of a film is staggered regionally and hence > >the DVD release needs to be staggered regionally > >or the "global" DVD would be coming out at same time > >or earlier than the theatrical release in > >some parts of the world OR the entire > >world would have to wait for the the global > >theatrical run to finish before a "global" > >DVD was released..... > > > >jco > > > >-----Original Message----- > >From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf > >Of > > >Tom C > >Sent: Thursday, April 19, 2007 2:43 PM > >To: [email protected] > >Subject: RE: OT - for those of you who have DVD equip that > >canplayPALsystemDVD's > > > > > >Because they don't sell non-region 1 DVD players at retail outlets in > >a > > >country where 999,999,999 DVD's out of every 1,000,000,000 DVD's sold > >are region 1, does not make it illegal. In fact it makes perfect > >sense. > > > >My, now defunct, region-free PAL/NTSC DVD player, was purchased from > >and > > > >shipped from a Canadian business address, which last time I looked, > >was > > >in North America. > > > > > >Tom C. > > > > > > >From: "J. C. O'Connell" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > > >Reply-To: Pentax-Discuss Mail List <[email protected]> > > >To: "'Pentax-Discuss Mail List'" <[email protected]> > > >Subject: RE: OT - for those of you who have DVD equip that > > >canplayPAL systemDVD's > > >Date: Thu, 19 Apr 2007 14:29:44 -0400 > > > > > >It is illegal to buy, sell or own non-region 1 DVD players in or to > > >north america from everything I have ever heard. Ever wonder why > > >you cant just go buy one at Circuit Shitty? jco > > > > > >-----Original Message----- > > >From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On > > >Behalf Of > > > > >Norm Baugher > > >Sent: Thursday, April 19, 2007 2:08 PM > > >To: Pentax-Discuss Mail List > > >Subject: Re: OT - for those of you who have DVD equip that can > > >playPAL systemDVD's > > > > > > > > >Illegal? How? I can do anything I want to my frickin' DVD player. > > >Some Hollywood prick going to show up at my door and tell me I > > >can't play the > > > > > >DVD's I bought in Europe? > > >Norm > > > > > >J. C. O'Connell wrote: > > > > Those are out there but they are illegal. > > > > jco > > > > > > > > -----Original Message----- > > > > From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Norm Baugher > > > > > > > > Well, thanks to the internet, I have a region code freebDVD > > > > player > > > > > - > > > > > > looked up the hack to get rid of the region code lock. Norm > > > > > > > > graywolf wrote: > > > > > > > >> Not only that, Ann, even if a DVD is the right type it may not > > > >> work. If a DVD is coded for a region your player is not, it > > > >> will not play. The > > > > > > >> DVD needs to be coded for North American distribution, unless > > > >> you > > > >> > > > > bought > > > > > > > >> a DVD player with some other region coded in it as may happen > > > >> if you ordered it from somewhere else. 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