On 4/20/07, AlexG <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> Thanks for all the responses so far, keep-em coming.
>
> The question now is, is it worth an extra 400 bucks? 400 bucks that
> can be spent buying... additional lenses?

In a word, yes.

For perspective, the diifernec in price from my Nikon 80-200 F2.8 and
the 70-200 F2.8VR is about $900-1000, Canadian. I balked at the price
difference, then broke down and bought the VR.

Worth every dime in extra price.

Dave
> Alex
>
> On 4/19/07, P. J. Alling <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> > No, they're slightly larger.  But I think they're slightly lighter.
> > (I'm too lazy to look it up).
> >
> > J. C. O'Connell wrote:
> > > Are the K100D & K110D the same size/weight as the istDS?
> > > jco
> > >
> > > -----Original Message-----
> > > From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of
> > > Paul
> > > Sent: Thursday, April 19, 2007 5:54 PM
> > > To: Pentax-Discuss Mail List
> > > Subject: Re: Need help deciding between k100d or k10d
> > >
> > >
> > > I have a K10D and much preferred the size and ergonomics of the ist*DS
> > > which i assume is like the K100D. The size of the K10D actually puts me
> > > off using it.
> > >
> > > Paul
> > >
> > > AlexG wrote:
> > >
> > >> Hi guys,
> > >>
> > >> I have been quite annoyed at all the low-light shots that I had to
> > >> delete because of slight camera shake. While I'd love to have the use
> > >> of a tripod, I A- Don't have one and B- wouldn't bring it with me if I
> > >>
> > >
> > >
> > >> did, so I've decided that shake reduction is a feature worth having.
> > >>
> > >> Also the JPEGs out of the DL are only satisfactory under very specific
> > >>
> > >
> > >
> > >> conditions. The k100d and k10d are both much better from what I've
> > >> seen.
> > >>
> > >> I currently have an *ist DL, with 18-55 and 50-200 lenses. My M42
> > >> 50mm/1.4 is currently sitting on ebay, because I suck at focusing when
> > >>
> > >
> > >
> > >> the light is low.
> > >>
> > >> Anyway, I am in a bit of a pickle. I am hesitating between k100d and
> > >> k10d, the former being about half the cost of the k10d makes it
> > >> extremely attractive right now.
> > >>
> > >> Here are the advantages of each, as I see them.
> > >>
> > >> K100d:
> > >> CHEAP!!
> > >> Lower noise
> > >> Up to iso3200
> > >> Better dynamic range than k10d (as measured in raw by
> > >> Imaging-Resource) AA Batteries
> > >>
> > >> K10d:
> > >> 10MP makes for an extra 800x600 of breathing room when cropping
> > >> Pentaprism viewfinder SSD/SSM/USM in-lens focus compatibility
> > >> (==future-proof) Excellent firmware (customizable white balance
> > >> presets, mtf priority, adjustable autoiso range, hyperprogram, etc)
> > >>
> > >> Plan is to sell the DL, body-only for 250-300 on ebay, as it is almost
> > >>
> > >
> > >
> > >> new (2100 pics vs the 17000 that seems to be the norm here :) )
> > >>
> > >> I will get the FA50/1.4 at the time of purchase.
> > >>
> > >> I have been concerned about the k10d's image quality, both from a
> > >> noise and 'banding' perspective. Proprietary li-ion batteries piss me
> > >> off because they cost so much to replace.
> > >>
> > >> But the pentaprism looks gooooooooooood. As do some of the pictures
> > >> I've seen. And SSM seems to be the proper solution to the pentax SLR
> > >> slow autofocus syndrome, though this has yet to be verified. The
> > >> lenses (DA*) seem to be very nice, and quite fast compared to the
> > >> current DA zooms so they'd be nice to upgrade to.
> > >>
> > >> If I get the k100d, i can get SR RIGHT NOW and worry about a
> > >> super-high-end camera in a year's time when the k10d's successor comes
> > >>
> > >
> > >
> > >> out.
> > >>
> > >> Anyway, I am thoroughly confused and I apologize for being a windbag
> > >> in this thread. I realize this has probably been debated ad nausea,
> > >> but I need some help to push me off the fence in either direction.
> > >>
> > >> Alex
> > >>
> > >>
> > >>
> > >
> > >
> > >
> >
> >
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