Working on it. Thank you.
And the exersice seem to make me more relaxed towards the big bad(?) PS 
beast.

Tim Typo
Mostly Harmless

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From: "Toine" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
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Tim,
I would try masking the front bird and reduce the saturation of the
remaining image to almost B&W and maybe also adjusting the brightness
and or contrast of the background. Should be a nice photoshop
exercise.
Toine

On 5/24/07, Tim Øsleby <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> Some NEWS first:
> I'm now prepering my first "commersial" displaying at a local cafe. It is
> noting big, just a wall to display at. And most of the regular visitors
> arent excactly the type to pay money for photography. So I don't expect
> much. Never the less, it is kind of exiting :-)
>
> The birds in Heavy Weather series means something for me, despite the 
> mixed
> reviews. The idea is to display then next to some slick looking "Bird in
> Sunset" etc.pictures, to make a contrast.
> It might be a bad idea, but I think it's the right thing to do, for me.
>
> And now, the PHOTO:
> You may remember this
> http://foto.no/cgi-bin/bildegalleri/vis_bilde.cgi?id=308716
> and Godfreys response (at the bottom of this post). Those of you who are
> less senile than me, may also remember that I responded claiming Photoshop
> phobia, and asked for more concrete suggstions on how to make the 
> separation
> better. He responded by adwising me to get rid of my Photoshop phobia by
> picking up some books.
> I'm doing that now, reading.
> And it seem to help. In fact it is rather fun. Now I'm actually able to 
> open
> Elements without a major sweating attack ;-)
> So thank you very much Godfrey for kicking me in my lower back region.
>
> Now I'm looking at the photo, the one that triggered the "read some books"
> suggestion. I'm looking for ways to make the separation between the bird 
> and
> the surroundings better. Haven't come up with a solution yet.
> So now I'm asking more. (That's the downside of doing people favours, they
> tend to come back for more (-; )
> Could you please give me some hints on what techniques to use, to 
> acomplish
> the goal, a better separation?
> I'm not asking for tutoring or detailed explonations. Just some simple
> hints, on what to go for, and what tools.
>
> I could make the crop a wider, and move the "offending" bird down a tiny
> bit. That would probably help. But I think it needs a bit more. Something
> adding some punch to the bird and the bird alone. I don't think encreasing
> saturation of the bird more is the right direction. Encreased saturation
> will alter the mood of the shot.
>
> But I'm open to most suggestions.
> Unless they means to go back to reshoot. Havent got time for that. It 
> ain't
> snowing all year here ;-)
>
>
> Tim Typo
> Mostly Harmless
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "Godfrey DiGiorgi" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> To: "Pentax-Discuss Mail List" <[email protected]>
> Sent: Tuesday, May 08, 2007 6:50 PM
> Subject: Re: PESO - Heavy Weather 2
>
>
> I like the idea in this photo a lot. What I would like to see is a
> bit more separation between the foreground bird and its surroundings.
> You might be able to do that with a little bit of careful image
> processing work.
>
> Godfrey
>
> On May 7, 2007, at 11:38 AM, Tim Øsleby wrote:
>
> > I've already displayed the first one. I think I have material for
> > four of
> > five in a Birds in Heavy Weather serie.
> > The idea of making a serie of them is partly inspired by Marnie's
> > projects.
> > http://foto.no/cgi-bin/bildegalleri/vis_bilde.cgi?id=308716
> > I like the composition in this one. Not fancy, but effecient.
> >
> > Thumb up, or thumb down folks?
> > When asking, I'm thinking of this photo and about the serie idea.
>
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