One of the NC micros makes a very dark ale, almost a stout, with more hops than 
any IPA I ever tasted. Yuk! I had to half and half it with Millers to drink it, 
and I like hoppy brews.

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John Francis wrote:
> But, of course, the "IPA" designation for beer brewed
> in the pacific northwet (Washington, Oregon, etc.) bears
> very little resemblance to a British IPA other than
> apparently using more hops in the process.  Personally
> I find most American IPAs over-hop to excess (although
> Pyramid IPA is the exception), and thoroughly dislike
> the excessive cloudiness (and overpowering yeast taste)
> of most Washington/Oregon IPAs.  Beer should be clear.
> 
> On Sat, Jun 09, 2007 at 11:47:44PM +0100, Bob W wrote:
>> No reason why you can't have American IPA if we can have British
>> lager, and so on. It's just a style of brewing, that's all.
>>
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>>> -----Original Message-----
>>> From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On 
>>> Behalf Of graywolf
>>> Sent: 09 June 2007 23:32
>>> To: Pentax-Discuss Mail List
>>> Subject: Re: Meta-GFM: Are there any *bad* microbreweries in NC?
>>>
>>> Is there such a thing as an american IPA? India Pale Ale was 
>>> a British invention, the hops were supposed to make it travel 
>>> well, e.g. to India by sailing ship for the troops to drink. 
>>>
>>> Anchor makes a pretty decent Porter, but that is about the 
>>> only American made version that is actually good, Black Hook 
>>> is mediocre at best and the rest, well... Most microbrewers 
>>> try, but lose something in translation.
>>>
>>> Strangely most of the microbrews are more expensive than the 
>>> imports. Well, most folks think expensive is good. BTW 
>>> "premium beer" is an american invention, the term means the 
>>> same cheap beer at a higher price. <sorry no grin>.
>>>
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>>> Rick Womer wrote:
>>>> I've never heard American IPAs described as bland
>>>> before!  What puts most people off them is their
>>>> hoppiness.
>>>>
>>>> Rick
>>>>
>>>> --- Bob W <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> I'm quite adventurous in my beer explorations. IPA
>>>>> is one of the few
>>>>> beers I don't particularly like - it's too bland.
>>>>> Stout is another.
>>>>> This makes for a difficult choice after a game of
>>>>> squash because the
>>>>> bar at my club only serves IPA and stout. A few
>>>>> weeks ago I found a
>>>>> shop which sold quite a wide range of US
>>>>> micro-beers, so I bought a
>>>>> bottle of each to try them and I was rather
>>>>> disappointed, to be
>>>>> honest. Most of them were too malty for me. I guess
>>>>> they don't travel
>>>>> particularly well. Either that or they're meant to
>>>>> be served much
>>>>> colder than I like.
>>>>>
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>>>>>  
>>>>>
>>>>>> -----Original Message-----
>>>>>> From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
>>>>> [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On 
>>>>>> Behalf Of David J Brooks
>>>>>> Sent: 09 June 2007 13:01
>>>>>> To: Pentax-Discuss Mail List
>>>>>> Subject: Re: Meta-GFM: Are there any *bad*
>>>>> microbreweries in NC?
>>>>>> I usually dont get advebtursome in my beer buying,
>>>>> but i bougt 6 of
>>>>>> the ipa from West Jeferson. Yet to try one, maybe
>>>>> tonight after
>>>>> Erins
>>>>>> show
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Dave
>>>>>>
>>>>>> On 6/8/07, Mark Roberts <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>>> I almost always bring back some Cottonwood
>>>>> Brewery "Endo" pale ale
>>>>>>> (official slogan: "Over the bars!") from North
>>>>> Carolina. This time
>>>>> I
>>>>>>> also brought back a selection of brews by the
>>>>> Highland 
>>>>>> Brewing Company:
>>>>>>> Kashmir Pale Ale, Black Mocha Stout and Oatmeal
>>>>> Porter. Excellent
>>>>>>> brews, every one.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Just another fringe benefit of driving down to
>>>>> Blue Ridge 
>>>>>> country ;-)
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