Well, I know that this a Pentax photo mailing list, but all this talk of America and the Constitution which is slowly being taken away from the American people ( As Jay Leno said said one night that we should give our Constitution to a foreign country since we no longer use it ) As far as voting for the next President, you should all take a look at congressman Ron Paul's web page as he would be suited to be the next President...Another thing about Ron Paul, he is not a lawyer as what most of our congress people....Ron Paul is a congressman from Texas..... Sorry for the rant.....Joe
At 04:35 PM 6/23/07, you wrote: > > From:,"P. J. Alling" > > > > Robb, that's damn near the stupidest thing you have ever said. > > > > William Robb wrote: > > ----- Original Message ----- From: "Paul Sorenson" > > Subject: Re: Bouncer > >> I wish more Americans felt this way instead of acting like sheep every > >> time someone takes a crack at eroding more of our civil liberties. > > The first step is to stop revering your war veterans as if they are > > some sort of heros. > > They aren't heros. > > What this reverence does is give you a national tendency to do what > > the military (by extension what you call the "commander in chief", I > > believe) tells you to do without question, and to follow the > > directives of anyone who puts on a uniform. > > > > William Robb > >I don't know that I'd consider veterans heroes just for being veterans. > >I'm a veteran, and certainly don't consider myself a hero just because >of it. Veterans deserve a certain amount of respect for having served, >especially since we've gone over to the all volunteer military. It don't >make 'em heroes, and it don't make 'em perfect. Some unquestionably are >heroes and should be honored for their heroism, but I had 31 years of >quiet, boring service, and one year of somewhat aggravating hardship. It >was hard work, and it changed my life, but it was nowhere near heroic. > >In all honesty though, most American's commitment to *support our >troops* is all of 6 inches high, 3 inches wide and maybe a half >millimeter thick ... and won't scratch the paint on the trunk (boot) of >their gas-guzzlin' SUV. > >And William's right about our current "commander in chief"; and by >extension, those high ranking officers who have put their own careers >ahead of their duty to the nation and to their soldiers. We swore our >oaths to the Constitution, not to the politicians, and we promised to >protect that Constitution from ALL enemies, DOMESTIC and foreign. > >In the US, it's a tradition that General Officers stay out of politics >while they're in uniform. But a whole lot more of them should have >resigned and spoken out against the follies of the current "war" on >terror. The worst of them are the "commanders" who had doubts then, who >knew Iraq had nothing to do with 9/11, who knew there were no reasons to >invade Iraq, who knew the "plans" were not just inadequate, but >negligently incompetent ... who went along anyway, and *NOW* have >retired and write their tell-all auto-biographies shifting the blame to >anybody and everybody but themselves, when they were the ones who could >have stood up, acted on principal and made a difference. > >But the biggest problem is the politicians who've wrapped themselves in >the mantle of honor due to the soldier for his service, and conflated >support for those who serve with unquestioning loyalty and obedience to >"The Leader". > >Try translating that one into German! > > >-- >PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List >[email protected] >http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List [email protected] http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net

