True, but I champion for liberty anyway, even if sometimes I feel I'm 
"tilting at windmills".

Regards,
Bob Blakely
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"Liberty, Sancho, my friend, is one of the most precious gifts
that Heaven has bestowed on mankind"
 - Don Quixote


----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Tom C" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>


> Well I didn't make the original statement I was just giving my take on it.
> :-)
>
> I don't know how we got to founding documents but it's important to 
> remember
> 1) that the founding documents of almost every nation, even the 1977 
> Soviet
> constitution, propose to guarantee essentially the same common set of 
> basic
> rights and 2) the documents are pieces of paper which can be
> interpreted/misinterpreted by those in power, much the way treaties are.
>
> The founding documents of the United States have not stopped the 
> travesties
> of justice that occur here routinely with liberty and the pursuit of
> happiness.
>
>>From: "Bob Blakely" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
>>
>>So basically, it's NOT fear of their neighbor's freedom in the sense folks
>>would normally take your statement, it's fear of their neighbor's license
>>(Lack of due restraint; excessive freedom: "When liberty becomes license,
>>dictatorship is near" - William Durant, or freedom that allows or is used
>>with irresponsibility and disregard for standards of personal conduct :
>>LICENTIOUSNESS, - that which usurps a liberty at the expense of denying
>>another's liberty).
>>
>>Our founding documents distinguish between what they referred to as 
>>liberty
>>and license.
>>
>>----- Original Message -----
>>From: "Tom C" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
>>
>> > >William Robb wrote:
>> >>
>> >> > I just don't understand where this kind of thinking comes from.....
>> >>
>> >>(US) Americans are scared of freedom.  Not their own, their neighbors'.
>> >>  And I say that as an (US) American.
>> >>
>> >>--
>> >>Thanks,
>> >>DougF (KG4LMZ)
>> >>
>> > That's exactly right. I know we've gone down this path before here. 
>> > All
>> > one
>> > has to do in this legal system is bring a claim to court that if proven
>> > true
>> > would require the court to intervene.  The court is then basically
>> > obligated
>> > to hear the case.   So any ill-meaning individual can turn your life to
>> > hell
>> > if they've got the the gumption to proceed.  It's especially bad if the
>> > person is both ill-willed and well- healed.



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