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From: "graywolf"
Subject: Re: FID (Film is Dead)


> The processing industry is dead, or at least dying, and they deserve it.

And who the fuck do you think is going to process film once all the film 
processors are gone? The industry went into the sewer because the consumer 
put it there, and then, in typical stupid consumer fashion, bitched because 
it smelled bad.
Check the numbers before you spew any more bullshit Tom.
Agfa is still on life support, and is only making about a half dozen films, 
Konica is out of the game, Fuji will be gone when they stop making a profit 
from the stuff, Kodak has moved pretty much all of it's film production to 
China because it isn't economically viable to keep making film in Rochester, 
and are out of B&W paper entirely, film sales are in freefall, good 
processing labs have stopped closing only because there aren't any more labs 
to close, and the mass marketers who the consumer put in charge of the 
market aren't doing much volume anymore either.
Ilford says they are still making B&W film, though I haven't seen any on the 
shelves for a while.

If you want to have a facts based discussion, at least go to the effort of 
finding out what the facts are.

>
> That is not the same thing as FID at all. Full service gas stations are 
> pretty much gone too, that is not the same thing as no one drives any 
> more.

Stick to the subject, straw men don't cut it.

William Robb 


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