> a lot of this type of work doesn't speak for > itself, you can stare at some of these photos for 100 years, and you > won't get it unless you know where the artist is coming from,
Precisely. Modern art is about art. It is a dialogue with its own history, so if you don't know the history of art you won't understand modern art. -- Bob > -----Original Message----- > From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On > Behalf Of Fernando > Sent: 21 August 2007 21:09 > To: Pentax-Discuss Mail List > Subject: Re: Conceptual photography (was - Corner Kick) > > To me it doesn't have to do with "instant" accessibility, it has to do > with the fact that a lot of this type of work doesn't speak for > itself, you can stare at some of these photos for 100 years, and you > won't get it unless you know where the artist is coming from, or that > the artist is expressing a screaming message of rage because he/she > was raped at the age of 6. It's a matter of taste, I don't have the > time or the will to learn the artist biography, some people do, and > that's OK. My limit is that I can even look at a gallery of photos if > as a whole, it speaks for itself, I mean, if an intelligent human > being is supposed to understand or feel moved by the work, but let's > face it, there's a lot of BS in art, and the common folk can easily > feel left out. Coming back to conceptual photography, to me the > problem is that for being photography, there are way too many words > involved... > > On 8/21/07, Bob W <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > Same here. I tend to think that most art, photography or > whatever, > > > should be accessible to the masses. > > > > It is. Just as particle physics is accessible to the masses. > > > > > If I don't get it I'm > > > not going to > > > spend much time with it. > > > > Then how can it be made 'accessible' to you? If you're not > prepared to > > put the effort into getting it, why should the people who > made it have > > to make it easy just to suit you? > > > > Why do people expect artists, who have devoted years of > their lives to > > understanding their subject and producing whatever it is > they produce, > > to be instantly 'accessible', when they don't expect the same from, > > for example, particle physicists? Why should 21st century > art be less > > difficult than 21st century physics? > > > > -- > > Bob > > > > > > > -----Original Message----- > > > From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On > > > Behalf Of Scott Loveless > > > Sent: 21 August 2007 20:11 > > > To: Pentax-Discuss Mail List > > > Subject: Conceptual photography (was - Corner Kick) > > > > > > Fernando wrote: > > > > I'm not a fan of Winogrand, I thought I was, but I found > > > that I liked some of his shots, probably the more popular > > > ones, the ones that are > > > > easy to read, the other ones, I don't get them, I guess I leave > > that > > > > to knowledgeable guys, who have the time and dedication to study > > an > > > > artist's body of work, I'm lazy and impatient, I don't get > > > conceptual > > > > photography for the same reason. > > > Same here. I tend to think that most art, photography or > whatever, > > > should be accessible to the masses. If I don't get it I'm > > > not going to > > > spend much time with it. I suppose that if I was an art > student or > > a > > > magazine editor I might be more critical. > > > > Speaking of this shot, when I saw it for the > > > > first time, I just thought, "I like it" didn't really stop to > > think > > > > why, > > > > > > > Me, too. I do sometimes put some thought into a photograph > > > that I like, > > > but more often than not I don't. > > > > > > -- > > > Scott Loveless > > > http://www.twosixteen.com/fivetoedsloth/ > > > > > > > > > -- > > > PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List > > > [email protected] > > > http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net > > > > > > > > > > > > -- > > PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List > > [email protected] > > http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net > > > > > -- > > http://www.flickr.com/photos/ferand/ > > -- > PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List > [email protected] > http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net > > -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List [email protected] http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net
