Totally OT - Chocolate covered jalapenos.  Now there's a combination to be 
marketed! Sounds like a
winner combining the 'feel good' chocolate effects and the endorphines 
produced by the capsaicin
burn.

Tom C.


>From: "Bob Blakely" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
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>To: "Pentax-Discuss Mail List" <[email protected]>
>Subject: Re: Metering Question
>Date: Fri, 7 Sep 2007 14:49:37 -0700
>
>No one here says it would be easier. Further, no one cares if you choose to
>hand hold because you find it easier. That's your business.
>
>I question the idea that it's "...almost impossible to frame correctly when
>using a tripod." ... and shooting a train was your example. This may be 
>true
>for you and/or with the gear with which you tried it, but a tripod, as in
>all tripods, seems pretty broad.
>
>I have an excellent Gitzo pan head for use with my movie camera. Works
>pretty damn good. Control is excellent. I've never put any of my Pentax 
>gear
>on it though.
>
>Regards,
>Bob...
>--------------------------------------------------------
>"Life isn't like a box of chocolates . .
>it's more like a jar of jalapenos.
>What you do today, might burn your butt tomorrow."
>
>----- Original Message -----
>From: "Glen Tortorella" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
>
>
> >I have done it many times.  It is much easier when holding the camera
> > with one's hands.
> >
> > Glen
> >
> > On Sep 7, 2007, at 3:47 PM, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
> >
> >> I have no idea what you're asking. You said the movie folk make it
> >> look easy. I tried to explain that while it may look easy in the
> >> finished product, it takes a lot of work to get there. Nothing
> >> more. Peter attempted to make the same point. When shooting with a
> >> camera on tripod with a movie head or any head, you don't get a
> >> chance to frame before you shoot -- assuming you haven't hired a
> >> train and crew to work with you. You make your best guess and try
> >> to keep the train in frame as it roars by. That's easier when
> >> you're handholding. Been there, done that.
> >> Paul
> >>  -------------- Original message ----------------------
> >> From: "Bob Blakely" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> >>> You keep the train in frame the "frame" of your choice until you
> >>> pass the
> >>> point of shutter trip. You can know where that point is whether
> >>> you hand
> >>> hold or use a tripod.
> >>>
> >>> Regards,
> >>> Bob...
> >>> --------------------------------------------------------
> >>> "Life isn't like a box of chocolates . .
> >>> it's more like a jar of jalapenos.
> >>> What you do today, might burn your butt tomorrow."
> >>>
> >>> ----- Original Message -----
> >>> From: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> >>>
> >>>
> >>>> And the movie folk get as many takes as they want. "Okay, back
> >>>> her up and
> >>>> do it again."
> >>>
> >>> And you don't - and the difference between your hand holding and
> >>> letting a
> >>> movie head hold the weight of the camera and reduce vibration
> >>> is... what?
> >>>
> >>>> Not to mention that they can get their frame and focus  with the
> >>>> train
> >>>> parked.
> >>>
> >>> And you THINK you can't - and the difference between your hand
> >>> holding and
> >>> letting a movie head hold the weight of the camera and reduce
> >>> vibration
> >>> is... what?
> >>>
> >>>> G[e]nerally, they mark the lens for different focus points along the
> >>>> track, and as the train moves with the camera rolling, the camera
> >>>> assistant "pulls focus."
> >>>
> >>> And you don't have this convenience - and the difference between
> >>> your hand
> >>> holding and letting a movie head hold the weight of the camera and
> >>> reduce
> >>> vibration is... what?
> >>>
> >>>
> >>>
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