> Opinions seem divided here on the value of the winder. I've even seen
 > it blamed for VPN, but that was on another less knowledgeable forum.

I like the grip. As for the whole VPN being caused by the grip thing,
it's a load of BS. I've had it occur with & without the grip.

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This hasn't been discussed in a while. The sensor (or the sensor plus 
the Nucore A/D converter) apparently produce vertical pattern noise in 
all sensors, but only a few people find it noticeable, and only at high 
ISO. But it is there. I've seen apparently clean images dissected to 
show that, indeed, VPN is present, just not noticeable.

The grip apparently produces (or can produce) a different problem, 
called horizontal pattern noise. I'm not a grip user so I have no 
experience with it. Again, though, this doesn't seem to affect everyone, 
or at least not everyone notices it. I haven't seen posts on it in a 
while. I don't think it has been established whether every sample of the 
grip produces this, but most often unnoticeably, or whether only a few 
do so.

So the patterned noise business is a matter of luck--if you are unlucky 
your sample of the gear may show it to a noticeable degee. If you are 
lucky you won't see it.

I have a pretty good K10D, but my luck ran out recently when my first 
DA* 50-135 F2.8 arrived with a loose optical element rattling around 
inside like a marble. Pentax sent me a replacement right away.

Joe

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