I generally get 8 1/2 x 11 as Sam's club sells boxes of Ilford 
Professional Galerie Professional Glossy for what most places charge for 
10-25 sheets, but then I'm cheap.

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> I buy only one size paper -- 13 x19. For 8x 10 or 8x12 (which is closer to 
> full frame for both 35mm film and digital), I print two pictures per sheet 
> and cut them out with a T-square and box cutter. For 5 x 7, I print four per 
> sheet. And of course I also print the occasional 18 x 12 or 13 x 19 (with 
> borderless printing turned on). Epson Premium Luster is my most used sheet, 
> but I also print on Epson Premium Presentation Matte (formerly Epson Enhanced 
> Matte) and Epson Fine Art.
> Paul
>  -------------- Original message ----------------------
> From: Glen Tortorella <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
>   
>> Thanks, Adam.  I did some research on the Epson R3x0 series.  The  
>> R380 looks nice (at about $100).  I looked up the Epson Luster paper  
>> you have mentioned.  It seems like nice paper, but appears to be  
>> offered only in one size, 8.5x11.  I tend to like the standard  
>> framing sizes, especially 5x7 and 8x10, and, thus, here is another  
>> elementary question: how can I obtain these sizes using this paper?   
>> Perhaps some type of cutting would be involved?  Also, since this  
>> paper is rather expensive, it seems rather wasteful to "downsize" the  
>> print size.
>>
>> Thanks,
>> Glen
>>
>> On Sep 26, 2007, at 12:32 PM, Adam Maas wrote:
>>
>>     
>>> Good printers, at least the Epson 6-ink ones (they use the same  
>>> print engine as the R2/300's). The scanners in them are really only  
>>> suitable for documents and prints, I wouldn't even bother trying to  
>>> get decent neg/slide scans out of them.
>>>
>>> -Adam
>>>
>>>
>>> Glen Tortorella wrote:
>>>       
>>>> Thank you, Adam.  How do you feel about the all-in-one printers?  The
>>>> Canon PIXMA MP810 and Epson RX680 look pretty nice, but I am no  
>>>> expert.
>>>>
>>>> Glen
>>>>
>>>> On Sep 26, 2007, at 10:20 AM, Adam Maas wrote:
>>>>
>>>>         
>>>>> For printer's you can't do better than the Epson R2x0 series. The
>>>>> higher-priced R3x0's are the same printers with more features
>>>>> (LCD's, DVD trays) but identical print quality. I've got the R320
>>>>> myself and the print quality is superb on good paper (I use Epson
>>>>> Premium Luster). Ink is always expensive until you get into the pro
>>>>> models (Where the tanks are expensive, but hold 10-100x as much  
>>>>> ink).
>>>>>
>>>>> For scanners, I'd look at the Epson 4490 with a pair of
>>>>> Betterscanning.com 35mm ANR inserts, or a used Minolta Scan Dual
>>>>> III or IV and a copy of Vuescan (The minolta software doesn't work
>>>>> on 10.4, it will work on 10.3)
>>>>>
>>>>> -Adam
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> Glen Tortorella wrote:
>>>>>           
>>>>>> Thank you, Adam.  I have a relatively recent iMac (running 10 point
>>>>>> something), but the printer I own was given to me, and it is an  
>>>>>> older
>>>>>> one (an inkjet) with mediocre poor print quality and expensive
>>>>>> cartridges ($30 at Wal-Mart).  Thus, if I take your advice and  
>>>>>> go the
>>>>>> scanner route, I would have to buy a scanner and printer.  What  
>>>>>> would
>>>>>> about $200 or so (for each) buy?  I gather the new inkjets are a  
>>>>>> good
>>>>>> deal better than those made five or ten years ago?  The older  
>>>>>> inkjets
>>>>>> I have seen make digital photos look like a study in Seuratian
>>>>>> pointilism and blue-is-green-black-is-purple color variance.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Glen
>>>>>>
>>>>>> On Sep 25, 2007, at 9:59 PM, Adam Maas wrote:
>>>>>>
>>>>>>             
>>>>>>> Get a scanner, and you can do the same with your film stuff.  
>>>>>>> All my
>>>>>>> film
>>>>>>> work (and I'm only shooting film now) is scanned and printed  
>>>>>>> with an
>>>>>>> inkjet. It works pretty well for me.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> -Adam
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Glen Tortorella wrote:
>>>>>>>               
>>>>>>>> Good commentary, Godfrey.  Have you read Rebekah's remarks?  I  
>>>>>>>> tend
>>>>>>>> to think that this is just another financial black hole.  On the
>>>>>>>> surface, I think: great! I can just get a good deal on a DSLR,
>>>>>>>> buy a
>>>>>>>> rreasonably-priced printer, hook it up to my IMac, and make as  
>>>>>>>> many
>>>>>>>> prints as I wish, but then there are those "hidden" costs...ink,
>>>>>>>> paper, software, and who knows what else...
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Perhaps this is why I have tried to remain ignorant of the DSLR
>>>>>>>> world.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Thanks,
>>>>>>>> Glen
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> On Sep 25, 2007, at 9:16 PM, Godfrey DiGiorgi wrote:
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>                 
>>>>>>>>> Glen Tortorella wrote:
>>>>>>>>>                   
>>>>>>>>>> While I have been resistant to digital for quite some time, I
>>>>>>>>>> find
>>>>>>>>>> this article interesting.  The idea of getting a good "budget"
>>>>>>>>>> DSLR
>>>>>>>>>> has crossed my mind, but I know so little about working within
>>>>>>>>>> the
>>>>>>>>>> DSLR format that I cannot get motivated to buy one.  I tend to
>>>>>>>>>> like
>>>>>>>>>> prints.  Thus, I ask the supremely elementary question: how  
>>>>>>>>>> does
>>>>>>>>>> one
>>>>>>>>>> turn the zeros and ones stored in the DSLR's memory into  
>>>>>>>>>> prints?
>>>>>>>>>> Would a computer and/or scanner be necessary (I do not have a
>>>>>>>>>> scanner, but I do have an iMac), or can a camera shop or photo
>>>>>>>>>> lab
>>>>>>>>>> supply the means to do this if one does not have a scanner?
>>>>>>>>>>                     
>>>>>>>>> You're asking these questions as if you knew nothing at all,
>>>>>>>>> which I
>>>>>>>>> suspect isn't quite true.
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> - No scanner is used when you're using a digital camera.  
>>>>>>>>> Scanners
>>>>>>>>> are
>>>>>>>>> used to capture film and print images into digital images. A
>>>>>>>>> digital
>>>>>>>>> camera produces digital images.
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> - You print a digital camera's photos the same way you print
>>>>>>>>> anything
>>>>>>>>> else: to a printer connected to either camera or computer, to an
>>>>>>>>> online print service having moved the image files from camera to
>>>>>>>>> computer, or by using a printer kiosk at a local store.
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> - If you have an iMac, you connect the camera to the computer  
>>>>>>>>> with
>>>>>>>>> its supplied cable. By default, iPhoto (supplied on every Apple
>>>>>>>>> system by default) will start up and download all the
>>>>>>>>> photographs so
>>>>>>>>> you can sort, show, and print them, to either a connected  
>>>>>>>>> printer
>>>>>>>>> via
>>>>>>>>> a print service on the internet.
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>                   
>>>>>>>>>> And, finally, how does the K100D compare to the Nikon...the
>>>>>>>>>> D40 or
>>>>>>>>>> D50, I gather?
>>>>>>>>>>                     
>>>>>>>>> A matter of opinion. They all work well at the level of  
>>>>>>>>> questions
>>>>>>>>> you
>>>>>>>>> are posing. If you already have Pentax lenses, it makes sense
>>>>>>>>> to buy
>>>>>>>>> a Pentax DSLR: it will save you money. If you don't have Pentax
>>>>>>>>> lenses, pick whichever one feels best in your hands and enjoy
>>>>>>>>> it ...
>>>>>>>>> they all work better than the majority of owners can exploit.
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> Godfrey
>>>>>>>>>
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