By international treaty, space is public in much the same sense that the 
empty (save for water) Atlantic is public.

Regards,
Bob...
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"Art is not a reflection of reality. it is the reality of a reflection."
      -Jean Luc Godard

----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Bob Sullivan" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: "Pentax-Discuss Mail List" <[email protected]>
Sent: Sunday, October 07, 2007 5:13 PM
Subject: Re: Photographer Being Sued


> Bob,
>
> What about shots from space?
>
> I am reminded of Barry Goldwater's comments about
> 'keeping your satelite signals off of my property'
> if you didn't want me to listen to them!
>
> Stop reflecting light into space from your property.
> Then those Google maps won't show anything.
>
> Regards, Bob S.
>
> On 10/7/07, Bob Blakely <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>> This can be a fuzzy area. Apparently the photographer was on private
>> property and the photos were taken of that same private property; 
>> further,
>> it appears that the photographer did not have permission from the 
>> owner(s)
>> to even be there, let alone take photographs. Now, had he taken the 
>> photos
>> from public property where what he photographed was easily visible to the
>> public, the College of Charleston Foundation would generally have no 
>> legal
>> standing.
>>
>> Photographers have been successfully prosecuted for going onto the 
>> property
>> of celebrities to take their photographs or photographs of their property
>> furnishings. It is an issue both of privacy and of the right of a owners 
>> to
>> control what happens on their property. Note that the College of 
>> Charleston
>> Foundation is a private organization - not public, and the owners of this
>> nonprofit organization have rights too.
>>
>> As far as copyright is concerned, this doesn't seem to be an issue 
>> brought
>> up by the foundation, but raised by the photographer's counsel. What I'm
>> saying is that this is probably not a copyright case and the issue of
>> copyright may well not come into the judges consideration.
>>
>> Look, if several of my fellows and I owned a piece of property, and we
>> didn't want photographers coming onto our property to take photos - for 
>> ANY
>> reason, or if we were conservators of the estate of someone who didn't 
>> want
>> photographers coming onto the property to take photos - for ANY reason, 
>> and
>> you did, and we found out about it, your as would be in court. It would 
>> be a
>> case od, "It's our goddam property, we get to control it and what happens 
>> on
>> it within the law and you (the photographer) are not imbued with special
>> privileges over others and their property simply because you have a 
>> camera
>> or you make your living with a camera. The issue of copyright would never
>> come up in court - our private property rights would. Now, if you get 
>> your
>> shots from off my property, I can say nothing.
>>
>> If you want to take and use shots of private places from the private 
>> places,
>> get permission (preferably written releases). If they say no, sorry, your
>> "need" for the shot(s) does not trump their right to the amount and type 
>> of
>> privacy they desire - on their own property.
>>
>> Regards,
>> Bob...
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>> "Art is not a reflection of reality. it is the reality of a reflection."
>>      -Jean Luc Godard
>>
>> ----- Original Message -----
>> From: "Rebekah" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
>>
>>
>> > Just found this interesting, what do you guys think?
>> >
>> > http://www.thestate.com/local/story/190126.html
>> >
>> > rg2
>> > --
>> > "the subject of a photograph is far less important than its 
>> > composition"
>>
>>
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