Well yes it was a pissing match. But I'm not mad a Adam because he wouldn't back down. In fact I learned a few things from him. I just don't agree that they're the whole reason for the high ISO improvements. WW has managed to piss me off enough that he's back in my Kill file with Dobo, Rubinstine(sp), (just in case they ever raise their heads again, and a couple of others who shall remain nameless, because I can't refrain from arguing with them, not because they're bad people). William is mostly just nasty, and revels in it.
David Savage wrote: > The thing is Peter you and Adam, from my point of view, are both > arguing the same thing. You say for better noise performance you need > a bigger sensor site (and eventually a larger sensor). We all agree > with this. > > Adam's saying the sensor manufacturers are improving their techniques > to increase the sensor site size within the limits of the APS-C form > factor. > > You're both going around and around stating the same thing, getting > your noses out of joint & turning the discussion into a pissing match. > > Cheers, > > Dave > > On 10/15/07, P. J. Alling <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > >> Sorry William but you seem to like baiting people. You offer nothing to >> the argument so go away. Adam seems to think I don't understand how it >> works. While I do. The math tells it all. He seems to think that you can >> improve hardware beyond physical laws. My point is that you can trick >> those laws but you can't get something for nothing. It's a legitimate >> argument. You on the other hand ofter betray your ignorance, and have >> complete disdain for people who don't agree with you. You often can't >> take a joke, or even realize one has been made.. You can't refrain from >> making political comments on the list then try to savage those who >> respond. To think I actually sort of liked you, I need to get my head >> examined. You and JCO should get a Condo together. >> >> William Robb wrote: >> >>> ----- Original Message ----- >>> From: "Adam Maas" >>> Subject: Re: Next move from Pentax: anyone in the know (even under NDA) ? >>> >>> >>> >>> >>>> High ISO noise performance is an area where most of the market has >>>> improved while adding MP. Since there are hard, physical, limits on how >>>> much light will hit a sensor site of theoretical max size for the >>>> resolution and sensor size, this improvement indicates that we haven't >>>> hit the actual physical limits of sensor design. We probably have hit >>>> the current max for current sensor production technology, but that's not >>>> to say that the production technology won't improve. >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> >>> This is starting to sound like a JCO hijacked thread. Adam, it's futile to >>> argue with these toothless old republicans, they will never admit to their >>> ignorance. >>> >>> William Robb >>> >>> >>> >>> >> -- >> Remember, it's pillage then burn. >> >> >> -- >> PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List >> [email protected] >> http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net >> to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and >> follow the directions. >> >> > > -- Remember, it’s pillage then burn. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List [email protected] http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
