I see we agree then. :-)

I guess my distaste for the genre is, that for all appearances,  it does not
rely on the eye or skill of the photographer or the quality of the image
necessarily to be successful.  And that bothers me because someone could put
ten of these in mattes and frames and show them to acclaim, when a ten year
old with a camera snapping at random could come up with something quite
similar. I certainly can, walking down any old street, in any city, USA, zip
code goes here.

IOW, I can take a shot of anything, a discarded tennis shoe on a track, a
crumpled beer can in the bushes, a broken pair of eyeglasses laying in the
gutter, and a significant number of people will look at, conger up a story
and pronounce that it's a great photograph when in reality it's a quite
ordinary photograph and maybe even a poor one, but that is overlooked
because of the illusion people create in their own minds.

And then said photographer walks away thinking they're somehow special.

Tom C.


> -----Original Message-----
> From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of
> [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> Sent: Wednesday, November 07, 2007 1:48 PM
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> Subject: RE: PESO 2007 - 46b - GDG
> 
> Of course, I'm the one telling the story, but that's true of most
photographs. They
> stimulate the imagination. If I see one of your beautiful mountain shots,
it may not tell
> me a specific story. But it may lead me to think of beautiful places I've
visited or the
> freshness of moutain air or the sound of wind in pines. The viewer's mind
makes the
> connections. All the photo can do is offer suggestions.
> Paul
>  -------------- Original message ----------------------
> From: "Tom C" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> > Respectfully, you are the one telling a story... the photograph does
not.
> > It's a perfect example of what I was talking about.  Looking for deeper
> > meaning where this is none to be found.
> >
> > You're free to enjoy it nevertheless. :-)
> >
> > Tom C.
> >
> >
> > > -----Original Message-----
> > > From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf
Of
> > > [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> > > Sent: Wednesday, November 07, 2007 1:26 PM
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> > > Subject: RE: PESO 2007 - 46b - GDG
> > >
> > > I think that if it's visually interesting, it works. I like this shot.
The
> > position of the two
> > > yellow leaves and the tire tracks tells a bit of a story. I see the
one
> > leaf as being
> > > blown away by a passing vehicle and the other vulnerable to the next
wild
> > man on a
> > > bike. Seriously. And I like the geometry of it as well. I judge photos
in
> > part by how
> > > much they can hold my interest. This held my interest longer than the
> > average pic.
> > > Some Rap is music to my ears as well. Not much, but some. I try not to
> > dismiss
> > > genres. Artful expression can be found in almost any format.
> > > Paul
> > >  -------------- Original message ----------------------
> > > From: "Tom C" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> > > > To me it's a genre that calls on us to throw away our well formed
ideas
> > and
> > > > perceptions of what constitutes good photography and throw them down
the
> > > > drain.  Sort of like referring to "rap" as "music".
> > > >
> > > > Ninety percent of this stuff I don't like.  Oh I was walking down
the
> > street
> > > > and saw a couple of leaves lying on the sidewalk, here you go...
> > > >
> > > > I thinks it's a genre that attracts people because it gives them
> > something
> > > > duller and more boring to focus their interest on than their own
lives.
> > > > Then they look at the image as if it contains some deeper meaning.
> > > >
> > > > Tom C.
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > > -----Original Message-----
> > > > > From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On
Behalf
> > Of
> > > > Cotty
> > > > > Sent: Wednesday, November 07, 2007 12:56 PM
> > > > > To: pentax list
> > > > > Subject: Re: PESO 2007 - 46b - GDG
> > > > >
> > > > > On 07/11/07, Godfrey DiGiorgi, discombobulated, unleashed:
> > > > >
> > > > > >Shooting on this project has ebbed, but I was out walking with
the
> > > > > >DA*16-50 and made a couple more exposures that fit into the theme
...
> > > > > >
> > > > > >   http://homepage.mac.com/ramarren/photo/PAW7/46b.htm
> > > > > >
> > > > > >Comments, critique, etc always appreciated.
> > > > >
> > > > > I really loathe this genre but actually that's not half bad ;-)
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > > --
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> > > > > Cheers,
> > > > >   Cotty
> > > > >
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