There are quite a few good video clips on there.  It's worth a rake around.
> 
> From: "Bob Sullivan" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> Date: 2007/11/07 Wed PM 01:19:19 GMT
> To: "Pentax-Discuss Mail List" <[email protected]>
> Subject: Re: More stream power
> 
> Mike,
> Marvelous!
> You have to wait for it,
> and then the experience is sensory overload!
> Regards, Bob S.
> 
> On 11/7/07, mike wilson <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> > For those with the interest and the bandwidth, here is 611 at full chuff.
> > http://www.rail-videos.net/video/view.php?id=927
> > >
> > > From: Adam Maas <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> > > Date: 2007/11/07 Wed AM 06:13:23 GMT
> > > To: Pentax-Discuss Mail List <[email protected]>
> > > Subject: Re: More stream power
> > >
> > > N&W was one of the last of the great US roads to dieselize, although UP
> > > would run steam longer after dieselization (UP tried just about
> > > everything possible as motive power in the 1950's, but was primarily
> > > diesel early on).
> > >
> > > The J's weren't freight locomotive's, they were fast passenger
> > > locomotives (The large drivers are typical for passenger units, most
> > > freight locomotives had smaller-drivers which were slower, but offered
> > > more traction). N&W's great freight locomotives were the Y Class
> > > Mallets, which were 2-8-8-2's  with 16 drive wheels(the J's were
> > > 4-8-4's). There were 14 J's, but only 8 of them were streamlined (the 5
> > > prewar J's and the 3 built in 1950, the other 6 built during WW2 lacked
> > > streamlining as an austerity measure).
> > >
> > > -Adam
> > >
> > >
> > > Bob Sullivan wrote:
> > > > Interesting.  That makes the N&W Mechanical Department the
> > > > manufacturer.  'See, we don't need any of those stinking diesel
> > > > locomotives!  We can be just as pretty with steam.'
> > > >
> > > > More seriously, I think the coal service of the N&W operated steam for
> > > > longer than most railroads.  Moving the heavy coal drags was a chore
> > > > that suited the steam power's performance characteristics.  With the 4
> > > > main drive axels on that locomotive, she had to be in freight service.
> > > >
> > > > Regards,  Bob S/
> > > >
> > > > On 11/6/07, Bill Owens <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> > > >> Hey Bob,
> > > >>
> > > >> In this case, the manufacturer was the railroad.  The N&W built a lot 
> > > >> of
> > > >> their own engines and all of their coal hoppers, all in the Roanoke 
> > > >> shops.
> > > >> At one time they had 4 of these J series engines, but only 611 is left
> > > >>
> > > >> Bill
> > > >>
> > > >>
> > > >> -----Original Message-----
> > > >> From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Bob
> > > >> Sullivan
> > > >> Sent: Tuesday, November 06, 2007 5:52 PM
> > > >> To: Pentax-Discuss Mail List
> > > >> Subject: Re: More stream power
> > > >>
> > > >> Prettied up with a streamlined exterior.  In the '50's, the locomotive
> > > >> manufacturers were trying to hold onto their customer base.  Not as
> > > >> much muscle visible here.
> > > >> Regards,  Bob S.
> > > >>
> > > >> On 11/6/07, Bill Owens <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> > > >>> http://www.railpictures.net/viewphoto.php?id=200851&nseq=10
> > > >>>
> > > >>> Not my photo, but a classic steam locomotive built at the Norfolk and
> > > >>> Western shops in Roanoke, VA.  It was built in 1950 and was arguably 
> > > >>> the
> > > >>> most efficient steam engine ever built.
> > > >>>
> > > >>> Bill
> > > >>>
> > > >>>
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