On Nov 20, 2007, at 9:35 AM, Cotty wrote:

> I have to disagree bro. In my book, an expectation can be a desire.  
> It's
> all very well to read up on specs and things before a purchase, but  
> (in
> my case) I have to feel it with my heart. It's not something that I  
> can
> easily put words to. I'm not a scientist, I'm a dreamer. My  
> expectations
> are what they are, and are relative. I would not expect my  
> expectations
> to be regarded in the same way as someone else's expectations.
>
> It's a bit like cars - or indeed bikes (motorcycles)! You know that
> these machines will get you from A to B, and some are faster than
> others, or more comfortable, but perhaps most of us have felt at some
> time or other a big buzz with one particular car or bike over another.
> You know that bike B is more sensible and stops better than bike A,  
> but
> bike A gives you a thrill and a ride that you know in your heart is  
> the
> one you want. (Exactly how this works with a Prius is another  
> matter ;-)
>
> You can test drive a car as long as you like - but once it's at  
> home and
> you're living with it every day, you might find that it has not  
> exactly
> lived up to your expectations - or your desires. Yet you knew the  
> facts
> and figures before you bought it. What you didn't realise was that in
> winter when you've got your big boots on, your foot won't fit to the
> left of the clutch pedal, and you get a charley-horse every time you
> drive it! Funny, that wasn't in the specs....
>
> I'm talking about heart here. Feeling. C'mon man!
>
> BTW, just because something doesn't meet my expectations, doesn't  
> mean I
> don't like it. If i didn't like it, I'd get rid of it. In fact, I
> haven't picked up the 1DmarkII in ages. I love the L1/A20 combo - it's
> real nice. Doesn't get my heart racing, but it's real nice.
>
> HTH

What I'm disagreeing with you about is that I feel a "desire" is not  
the same thing as an "expectation".

EG: In 1975, I wanted a Lamborghini 350GT and I had many expectations  
of it regards performance, etc. Once I bought one, I found that my  
desire for it cooled quickly and that my expectations of its  
qualities were not met. I still found it an interesting, fascinating  
car to drive, but I turned it around for sale within a couple of  
months despite liking the idea of it a lot.

EG 2: When I bought the Pentax *ist DS, I bought it because I desired  
the DA14's FoV, and I expected that the lens' quality and the body's  
performance would be satisfactory to my needs. What I found within a  
week or two of owning it was that it exceeded my expectations in  
terms of image quality and ergonomics. I liked using it more than I  
liked using my Canon gear and ended up selling off the Canon in  
preference to an increased desire to use the Pentax gear.

Two different things in my book, that's all.

Godfrey

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