There is no doubt the guy deserves it. But that is the problem with censorship, it starts with those who deserve it and expands to those who the censors dislike, and soon becomes censorship of ideas rather than behavior.
I find it somewhat amusing that many of those complaining loudly say they have him filtered out, but of course they do not have the self-discipline to not read the filtered out mail. So you, Doug, are supposed to do something about it. Since I understand why people act like Ben does, my feelings are more pity than anger. Just think what a life is like when you feel you have to act in such a manner to get any attention at all. And the sadder thing is you folks are all reinforcing his behavior, see all the attention he is getting by acting out? Graywolf (Tom Rittenhouse) Website: http://www.graywolfphoto.com Blog: http://www.graywolfphoto.com/journal/ ----------------------------------------------------------------------- Doug Brewer wrote: > On Jan 12, 2008, at 6:14 AM, Derby Chang wrote: > >> Doug, >> >> I'm sorry, but even for a live and let live kind of guy I am, I >> have my >> limits. Should PDML have a charter against really offensive posts? I >> read a post from a PDMLer who has probably been blocked by most >> members. >> But I have been lazy and have been letting them through. >> >> In response to a rather lovely photo of a pretty child of one of the >> members, said poster wrote a post wrote a fairly ugly intimation of >> violence against this child. I am sure there are real-world laws >> against >> this. I will defend his right to free speech, but not to doing >> violence >> to innocents. >> >> Derby > > When I took over this list, one of the first things I wrote was that > I reserved the right to ban people for crimes against the list, and > there was such a strong negative reaction to it that I pretty much > forgot about it. > > Ben's actions are the reason I wrote that in the first place, and I > think we can all agree that yes, there are limits, even on the PDML. > > Stopping short of banning him entirely, Ben has been put on Moderated > status, which, as you all know, does nothing to endear him to me, > because it means I'll have to sort of pay attention. On the other > hand, people have grown much older waiting for me to respond to list > issues that I deem low priority, so it's entirely possible that Ben > will get tired of waiting for me to approve/discard his messages and > move on to a more suitable forum. > > Ben, you can consider this strikes one and two. Not only do you have > nothing of particular value to contribute to the community, but you > have committed what I consider to be a far more heinous crime: You're > boring. > > Do yourself a favor and keep the profanities to yourself. You won't > come up with anything original, and you certainly won't impress > anyone, least of all me. > > Doug > List God > -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
