Thanks David. I'll send these to Josh. Much appreciated.
Paul
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From: "David Savage" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> G'day Paul,
> 
> It's good to see that they got back to you & seem to be taking your
> concerns seriously.
> 
> WRT how these banner ads work, it's true that the ad's target the web
> users country of origin. I visit may US & UK based sites and many show
> ads for Australian banks, telco's, Dell Australia etc.
> 
> As Josh mentioned spyware can also be an issue, but I'm pretty sure my
> system is clean. I've checked on 3 different computers, on 2 separate
> networks (at home & work) & I'm still seeing similar animated Adobe
> Flash ads.
> 
> Here are some more examples that you may wish to pass along:
> 
> 1) Photo.net home page screen shot
> <http://www.arach.net.au/~savage/Misc/PnPS/PnHome_1.jpg>
> 
> Upper right banner ad link:
> <http://content.yieldmanager.edgesuite.net/atoms/90/94/9094837ca2eb5d5225302f10d
> 9d05f0c.swf?clickTag=http%3A%2F%2Fad%2Eyieldmanager%2Ecom%2Fclick%2CRwQAAAHxAwAP
> gwgAswMDAAIAAAAAAP8AAAACFgIAAgMMvwQAjEcFANOiBAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAItXi0cA
> AAAA%2C%2Chttp%253A%252F%252Fad%2Eyieldmanager%2Ecom%252Fiframe3%253Fvvmaadobawb
> 6uqgabrodaaiaaaaaap8aaaacfgiaagkksgqab8aeaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaanejcd0
> k19m%2E16nwpqrx0z%2Exo3a9ctftp9ejcd0k19m%2Eaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaa
> aaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaexhsvwy81amaktkn9e3%2C>
> 
> Lower banner ad link:
> <http://content.yieldmanager.edgesuite.net/atoms/67/05/67055ae772dabcae1096eb3bf
> 0403022.swf?clickTag=http%3A%2F%2Fad%2Eyieldmanager%2Ecom%2Fclick%2CRwQAAAHxAwBy
> cwgAtAMDAAIABAAAAP8AAAACFgIABgMMvwQAjEcFANSiBAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAI9Xi0cA
> AAAA%2C%2Chttp%253A%252F%252Fad%2Eyieldmanager%2Ecom%252Fiframe3%253Fvvmaaggoawb
> 8uqgabrodaaiabaaaap8aaaacfgiabgkksgqab8aeaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaanejcd0
> k19m%2E16nwpqrx0z%2Exo3a9ctftp9ejcd0k19m%2Eaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaa
> aaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaajxk3aw81anon%2Egykjf9mfkatt6m%2C>
> 
> 2) Random Paul S image 1 screen shot:
> <http://www.arach.net.au/~savage/Misc/PnPS/PnPS_4.jpg>
> 
> Upper banner link:
> <http://content.yieldmanager.edgesuite.net/atoms/84/d1/84d126e256ba9977ade07aa55
> 5fc8e29.swf?clickTag=http%3A%2F%2Fad%2Eyieldmanager%2Ecom%2Fclick%2CRwQAAAHxAwAh
> 9gkA1H4DAAIACAAAAP8AAAACFgIABgMMvwQAJZ8EAERMBQAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAJtZi0cA
> AAAA%2C%2Chttp%253A%252F%252Fad%2Eyieldmanager%2Ecom%252Fiframe3%253Fvvmaad0bawb
> 8uqgabrodaaaadaaaaayaagacfgiabgi1raqab8aeaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaanejcd0
> k19m%2E16nwpqrx0z%2Exo3a9ctftp9ejcd0k19m%2Eaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaa
> aaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaa5mk9%2Ehg%2D1aoy62ntu3ic0zr4d6an%2C>
> 
> Lower banner ad Link
> <http://content.yieldmanager.edgesuite.net/atoms/84/d1/84d126e256ba9977ade07aa55
> 5fc8e29.swf?clickTag=http%3A%2F%2Fad%2Eyieldmanager%2Ecom%2Fclick%2CRwQAAAHxAwAh
> 9gkA1H4DAAAADAAAAAAAAQACFgIABgMMvwQAJZ8EAERMBQAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAJ1Zi0cA
> AAAA%2C%2Chttp%253A%252F%252Fad%2Eyieldmanager%2Ecom%252Fiframe3%253Fvvmaaggoawb
> 8uqgabrodaaaadaaaaayaagacfgiabgi1raqab8aeaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaanejcd0
> k19m%2E16nwpqrx0z%2Exo3a9ctftp9ejcd0k19m%2Eaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaa
> aaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaajycxxro%2D1an%2Dj20u6thfoos4ygtw%2C>
> 
> 3) Random Paul S image 2 screen shot:
> <http://www.arach.net.au/~savage/Misc/PnPS/PnPS_5.jpg>
> 
> <http://clkag.targetpoint.com/Redirect.tpr?ur=http%3a%2f%2fnetwork.adsmarket.com
> %2fclick%2fjGRpnY2ff5WNkGnEXsp9nIphbMRhnX6Xt2NxlmbKf5mJaQ%3fdp%3d72890&mui=93165
> 3d5-d08d-473b-a450-519b6bc6d3d0&lid=5910&gol=YR2QtkootR7uRMxLwzJteA%3d%3d&qry=-1
> &cid=13&dir=4&kw=-2&pid=247054&sid=0>
> 
> 4) Random Paul S image 3 screen shot:
> <http://www.arach.net.au/~savage/Misc/PnPS/PnPS_6.jpg>
> 
> Upper banner link:
> <http://h10085.www1.hp.com/hho/mosaic/index.html> This is the page the
> ad linked to. I couldn't get the original pagead link to work.
> 
> All but the last have nothing to do with photography.
> 
> HTH
> 
> Cheers,
> 
> Dave
> 
> 
> 
> On Jan 14, 2008 8:18 PM, Paul Stenquist <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> > David Savage and Carl G sent me screen shots of my photo.net page and
> > alerted me to the fact that non-subscribers don't see the same nice,
> > clean page that subscribers see. I wrote to Josh, the photo.net site
> > director, and told him I wasn't pleased. I included the URLs and
> > screen shots. Here is Josh's reply.
> >
> > Rick and Paul,
> >
> > I'm replying to the two of you together because you wrote me at
> > virtually the same time regarding the same issue. You can pass this
> > along to the pentax mailing list if you like. [EMAIL PROTECTED] is the
> > address that any replies should be directed to.
> >
> > A few things to know:
> >
> > 1. Yes, non-subscribers see more ads on the site than subscribers.
> >
> > 2. International viewers see different ads than N. American viewers,
> > this has to do with the different ad providers we use. A N. American
> > company doesn't want to advertise in Germany and vice versa.
> >
> > 3. From the screenshots that were included with Paul's email, someone
> > is seeing ads that they shouldn't be seeing. Flashing/jumping "you are
> > a winner" ads should not be on photo.net.
> >
> > Now, there are a couple reasons that could be the cause of #3:
> >
> > A. If only one or two people are actually seeing flashing/jumping ads,
> > then their computers may be infected with spyware.
> >
> > B. There may have been a "bait and switch" pulled on the site.
> > Sometimes an advertiser will present one ad for approval that will get
> > through our filters, then switch it with another ad when they think we
> > aren't paying attention. This is a particular problem with
> > international ads. Probably because the crap companies know we are
> > based in the USA and won't catch on as quickly.
> >
> > C. Full screenshots (including the URL bar of your browser) are needed
> > to get rid of these ads. We need to know where on the site they are
> > showing up. Copying the link that they are trying to send you to is
> > also useful (if you know how to do that without actually visiting
> > their site).
> >
> > Any questions, please do not hesitate to ask.
> >
> > Josh
> > Photo.net Director of Community
> 
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