Aaron ...

You misread my message.  I didn't make the digital print, my mentor did,
and he's been doing this a while.  Some of his stuff is quite nice, but,
in fairness to him, he was working with my negative, which was not
processed for digital reproduction.  Exactly what that may entail I
don't know, but with typical B&W stuff I can manipulate contrast, move
shadow and highlight detail around, etc., and the neg he chose to work
with was just a simple portrait in flat light with a camera/lens
combination I'd never used before, shooting a film that was rather new
to me as well.

So, there's a bit of apples and oranges here.  However, my point, which
you easily grasped, is that it takes skill and practice to get a good
print regardless of which method one chooses.

To answer you questions, the first time I was in a B&W darkroom it took
me 2 minutes to make a print.  From then on it took quite a bit longer
;-))

I had no schooling in making prints in the darkroom.  I've actually had
more education in making digital prints, and I've only been involved in
the process for about an hour <g>.

Aaron Reynolds wrote:
> 
> On Tuesday, November 20, 2001, at 12:27  PM, Shel Belinkoff wrote:
> 
> > I suppose a lot depends on how your system is calibrated, just like how
> > your darkroom is calibrated.  However, it took me less time in the
> > darkroom to print that particular picture than it did to print it
> > digitally, and the quality was superior.  Perhaps on the next print the
> > differences in quality and the time involved won't be so great.
> 
> How long have you been printing digitally?  How long have you been
> printing conventionally?
> 
> This month is the first birthday of our Epson 7500, and I would estimate
> that I now take less than half the time that I did to make a print when
> we first got it.  I'm also working with it five or six days a week for
> several hours a day.
> 
> Calibration is a very big part of digital printing, just as it is for
> film processing, or particularly for conventional colour printing.  But
> also, experience is important.  The first time you were in the black &
> white darkroom, how long did it take you to make a print?
> 
> Plus, did you have any schooling in conventional printing?  Or in
> digital?
> 
> Digital, for all it's instant-gratification appearance, has its own
> learning curve and its own pitfalls.  I've found that it is very similar
> to the conventional darkroom in one very important way: you get better
> with practice.

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