Thanks for the information.  I'll be doing some looking in to this
direction.

-- 
Bruce


Saturday, January 19, 2008, 10:26:31 AM, you wrote:


WR> ----- Original Message ----- 
WR> From: "Bruce Dayton"
WR> Subject: Re: PESO - The Stand


>> Would you give me some ideas of exactly what kind of setup I would be
>> looking for?  Such as body, lenses, tripod, backs, etc - I really know
>> nothing about large format - the biggest I have shot is 67.

WR> Most of the stuff of yours that I have seen would be well served with a wood
WR> field camera.
WR> This is what mine looks like:
WR> http://users.accesscomm.ca/wrobb/temp/tachihara.html.

WR> I've used everything from old Dagors to modern Nikkors, and am very partial
WR> to Schneider and Fujinon lenses. On 4x5, the 150mm is considered the
WR> "normal" lens (similar FOV as a 50mm lens on 35mm film). That picture you
WR> just showed would have required a 600mm ($$$$) lens to achieve the same as
WR> what you got with your 135, so keep in mind, there are some pretty serious
WR> limitations with big film.
WR> A nice 4x5 kit is something in the 65mm to 90mm range, a 150ish mm and a
WR> short telephoto, 250mm-300mm is nice.
WR> I preferred the 210 for most of my LF work, and as I noted a while back, I
WR> just found a 65mm Super Angulon that I had completely forgotten about. This
WR> is exciting for me, as I really like wide angle lenses.

WR> I don't know much about scanning big negs, I prefer wet prints from film.
WR> The few scans of a big neg I have done were with my Epson 2450 scanner, and
WR> they scans were quite acceptable. They are also huge, and will bring lesser
WR> computers to a standstill as they attempt to manipulate the files. A PSD
WR> file from a 4x5 tranny scanned at a decent resolution will be up around
WR> 600mb or larger. Bring a big computer to this game if you choose to play it.

WR> Film backs are what makes the kit big. My 4x5 kit weighs in at close to 40
WR> pounds, half of which at least is the 2 dozen film backs whick allows me to
WR> take 48 pictures before reloading.
WR> You think carefully about every exposure before you push the button with
WR> large format, both because of the cost of film, but also because a wasted
WR> shot is a big waste of resources if you can't reload your backs easily.
WR> When we were touring the Southwestern States on a yearly basis back in the
WR> mid 90s, I carried a dark tent with me, and reloaded film backs every night
WR> at my campsite. If I was in a particularly photogenic place, I would
WR> sometimes find a shady spot and reload film on a picnic table.
WR> This does tend to attract attention from other tourists, and in the era of
WR> paranoia that we live in now, might attract unwanted attention as well.
WR> You are doing something unusual, therfore you must be investigated, after
WR> all.
WR> The point is, as long as you are willing to reload film backs frequently,
WR> you can get by with fewer backs. If you aren't venturing far from your
WR> vehicle, you can carry fewer backs as well.
WR> Something I thought about doing, but never did, was to make a set of
WR> saddlebags for my dog so that he could carry some of my gear for me. If and
WR> when I start shooting large format again, Jester will probably find himself
WR> a new job as a pack mule.

WR> As for the finished product, I can pick out an 11x14 made from 35mm film
WR> from across a room. the quality difference is that apparent. It's more
WR> difficult with digital because of the lack of grain, but if you get closer,
WR> the lack of fine detail becomes apparent. The real beauty of large format is
WR> the smoothness of the finished prints, and this is something that is readily
WR> apparent in print, though digital processing takes much of that advantage
WR> away from big film, as digital printing ends up being 8 bit.

WR> Something I've been playing with in an attempt to get decent resolution from
WR> digital is multiple stitched exposures.
WR> This shot
WR> http://users.accesscomm.ca/wrobb/peso/pages/Arch1Panorama1.html
WR> is a dozen exposures pasted together. No big deal on a computer screen, but
WR> the 16x24 inch print that rolled of my Epson does rival large format for
WR> visual appeal, though I have a hunch that I would still prefer a wet print
WR> made from 4x5 FP-4+.
WR> I'm kind of a contrary person that way.

WR> William Robb





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