If you have enough money you can be excused for not being green.

Kenneth Waller
http://www.tinyurl.com/272u2f

----- Original Message ----- 
From: "P. J. Alling" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
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Sent: Tuesday, January 29, 2008 10:42 PM
Subject: Re: Global warming: Icy lolipops


> I've heard the described as indulgences and depending on what they're
> based on the "science" behind them is suspect.
>
> Ken Waller wrote:
>>  >OTOH, I am with frank on  capitalism, someone will jump right in on 
>> making
>>
>>> money on "going green." They  already are.
>>>
>>
>> Yeah, I think its called carbon credits !
>>
>> Kenneth Waller
>> http://www.tinyurl.com/272u2f
>>
>> ----- Original Message ----- 
>> From: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
>> Subject: Re: Global warming: Icy lolipops
>>
>>
>>
>>> In a message dated 1/29/2008 10:35:35 A.M.  Pacific Standard Time,
>>> [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
>>> Those are  generalities not facts, based on the rosy predictions of
>>> "experts" who  either don't know better or worse yet don't care.  Lets
>>> actually look  at the expected results as predicted, (or more for that
>>> matter look at the  actual results as predicted for actions already 
>>> taken
>>> and what actually  happened).  If you take all inputs into account and
>>> expected longevity  of the vehicle which is more ecological a Hummer h1
>>> or a Toyota Prius.   Most would say the Prius, it is after all touted as
>>> being "green", but  depending how you do the analysis the reverse can be
>>> proved.  Both  analysis are within the bounds of reason.  You pick the
>>> one you like  based on your bias.  But bias doesn't tell which is right.
>>> It  depends really on what kind of pollution you prefer and how you
>>> measure  energy usage more than anything else.  However I'm more
>>> convinced by  the numbers on the side of the H1, yet as a civilian
>>> vehicle the H1 fails  miserably and I certainly wouldn't want to own
>>> one.  Sometimes what you  think is helping is hurting more than doing
>>> nothing at  all.
>>>
>>> ============
>>> Well, Peter, if we all thought like you then I say,  f-it let the human
>>> race
>>> die out when pollution/population is greater than clean  air/water/water
>>> supplies/food supplies.
>>>
>>> OTOH, I am with frank on  capitalism, someone will jump right in on 
>>> making
>>> money on "going green." They  already are.
>>>
>>> Scratch an idealist, Peter, and one usually finds a cynic  underneath 
>>> and
>>> not
>>> too deep down either. That is usually why they became or were  an 
>>> idealist
>>> in
>>> the first place. The trick is to let hope outweigh despair and  the deep
>>> seated conviction that people are basically stupid.
>>>
>>> HTH, Have a  Nice Day!  Marnie  ;-)
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