> I saw Triump of the Will in college  in film class and thought it
was 
> masterful. A incredibly masterful piece of  propaganda, 
> meaning talent had gone into 
> it.

I don't think anyone denies her talent. She's probably one of the best
film directors ever - up there with D W Griffiths and others. She is
arguably _the_ best female film director (how many other women film
directors can people name instantly?). It's the use she put it too,
and her consistent failure to acknowledge her part in Hitler's
success, that are so controversial. 

She was also very unethical in the way she dealt with the Nuba people
she filmed and photographed. 

Susan Sontag drew a connecting thread between her pre-Nazi mountain
films, her films for Hitler and Goebbels, and her self-commissioned
work with the Nuba. Sontag claimed it showed a 'fascist aesthetic' in
her worship of the body beautiful. I'm not sure that it can be called
a fascist aesthetic, but the thread is certainly there. Her images are
certainly beautiful and very powerful, but when I look at them I don't
find myself yearning for a black uniform and a parade ground.

> 
> I know nothing about Susan  Sontag or Annie Leibovitz, but 
> when I did a 
> google search on Leibovitz, seems  she's been shooting 
> celebrities for a long time, 
> regardless if she has done  earlier and more serious work. 
> 

Annie Leibovitz is extremely talented, and has more or less always
been a portraitist. I first became aware of her in the late 70s
through a book she shared with Mary Ellen Mark called The
Photojournalist, published in 1974 in the Masters of Contemporary
Photography series. At the time she was the photographer for Rolling
Stone magazine. Most of the photos in the book were quite straight and
ungimmicky, although in some you do see a hint of the trickery that
she makes so much of nowadays, and which has gone right over the edge
with these Disney photos. There's too much surface gloss in much of
her celebrity portrait work now, and it isn't used as any kind of
commentary - she seems to have bought into that world. On the other
hand, when she steps away from celebrity she is a superb photographer,
portraitist and journalist.

--
 Bob
 

> -----Original Message-----
> From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On 
[...]
> Anyway, while googling around for more about  Leibovitz and 
> Riefenstahl
> I stumbled upon the following monstrosities from  Leibovitz's
camera.
> Don't look unless you have a strong  stomach:
> 
>
http://disneyparks.disney.go.com/disneyparks/en_US/index?name=Gallery&;
> bhcp=1
> 
> I  don't know which is the greater crime against good taste, that or
> Triumph of  the Will.
> 


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